randomizer
Structural
- May 19, 2007
- 15
Hello fellow SE's,
I have a situation where an old house has old 6x beams running the length of the center of the house, under the central bearing walls above. These beams have checking on the bottom (and top?), and long splits on the bottom. Yet, there are no checks on the sides.... perhaps it is a 6x6 turned sideways. I haven't verified the size yet.
Reading through Donald Breyer's book on wood design, I looked closely at the wording in the section that discusses ckecking and spliting (4th Edition: 4.13-4.14,4.24-4.25).
First, Breyer says checking relieves stresses: great, but you are still left with a reduced section & possible stress concentrations for future loads.
Here's the nitty gritty: On 4.14: "[Checking] causes a reduction in shear strength which is taken into account in the grading rules and tabulated design values"
Possible interpretations:
A) the NDS code tables assume all 6x's (plus) have checking and have already reduced the allowable stresses?
I believe that used to be the C-subH factor. But recently, it was found that the C-subH factor was redundant to another factor, and all the shear stress values in the 2001 NDS were increased by a factor of 2.
B) beams with a lot of checking are discarded because they do not meet the "grading rules" requirements.
Another quote (4.25) "Again, lumber grading rules provide limits on these types of defects."
So this could also be interpreted as options (A) or (B) but it seems to imply more of (B). This quote is what got me thinking about this in the first place.
In the NDS 2007, pages 17-18 seem to imply that wet-dry conditions (checking?) effects the long-term creep?
And there is the wet-dry factor C-subM described on pg. 28: this page seems to imply that a "wet" beam in a dry service conditions should have Cm applied to it...
Please let me know if you think I need to either reduce my net sections calculations for the checks & splits, or reduce my stresses by Cm or something else.
Thank you,
Michael C.
I have a situation where an old house has old 6x beams running the length of the center of the house, under the central bearing walls above. These beams have checking on the bottom (and top?), and long splits on the bottom. Yet, there are no checks on the sides.... perhaps it is a 6x6 turned sideways. I haven't verified the size yet.
Reading through Donald Breyer's book on wood design, I looked closely at the wording in the section that discusses ckecking and spliting (4th Edition: 4.13-4.14,4.24-4.25).
First, Breyer says checking relieves stresses: great, but you are still left with a reduced section & possible stress concentrations for future loads.
Here's the nitty gritty: On 4.14: "[Checking] causes a reduction in shear strength which is taken into account in the grading rules and tabulated design values"
Possible interpretations:
A) the NDS code tables assume all 6x's (plus) have checking and have already reduced the allowable stresses?
I believe that used to be the C-subH factor. But recently, it was found that the C-subH factor was redundant to another factor, and all the shear stress values in the 2001 NDS were increased by a factor of 2.
B) beams with a lot of checking are discarded because they do not meet the "grading rules" requirements.
Another quote (4.25) "Again, lumber grading rules provide limits on these types of defects."
So this could also be interpreted as options (A) or (B) but it seems to imply more of (B). This quote is what got me thinking about this in the first place.
In the NDS 2007, pages 17-18 seem to imply that wet-dry conditions (checking?) effects the long-term creep?
And there is the wet-dry factor C-subM described on pg. 28: this page seems to imply that a "wet" beam in a dry service conditions should have Cm applied to it...
Please let me know if you think I need to either reduce my net sections calculations for the checks & splits, or reduce my stresses by Cm or something else.
Thank you,
Michael C.