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Clouding revisions on drawings 1

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ztengguy

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May 11, 2011
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If all you change are some CAD errors, lets say direction of a section cut, do you cloud the drawings?
 
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I would, and mostly for the record not to bring it to the attention of the contractor. In the Description part of the title block I just state 'misc. annotation corrections' so it is a low priority for who ever is in charge of printing pages. I would/do cloud the section cut.
 
Another good question.. Depends on what the purpose of the clouds... If the project has been bid, then I like to cloud any changes that affect the bid. I would think correcting the direction of a section cut isn't necessarily changing your bid.

If you also issue a narrative along with the drawings, you can add to your narrative the drafting corrections, but only cloud your cost changes on the construction documents.

Sometimes we cloud drawings during plan check to assist the plan check engineer. I find that request time consuming and annoying as this is not the intent of clouding. It adds more drafting time as well.. and then all clouds have to be removed after bid.

Sometimes, the project is bid before plan check is complete. Then it becomes a nightmare clouding changes for the contractor versus changes as part of a plan check comment (which may not have cost impact)

Anyway, that's my opinion!

 
I worked for large, multi-disciplined, companies but it doesn't matter whether the other disciplines are in the same company as you or are in separate companies. Every time you issue a revised drawing without clouds, the Architect, the mechanical services engineer the electrical engineer, etc. etc. all have to check the the whole drawing against the previous issue to see if and how we screwed them with the unknown changes.

Michael.
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved." ~ Tim Minchin
 
In the crossword puzzle magazines, they have puzzles where there are two pictures, and the challenge is to find the 10 differences. Having a drawing with a revision note and no indication of what it is, is a lot like those puzzles.

I would say in this case, if there were simply a notation that "Section arrow was reversed", that would cover it, cloud or no cloud.

My drawings aren't bid drawings, they're shop drawings, but the clouds always stay there until the next revision, if any. I put clouds in paper space, the drawing is all in model space, so they're quick and easy to erase.
 
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