Could you get this to work?

[Prestressed Guy]

This is an interesting one. Yesterday I was asked to look at a house built in the 1970's and have attached the basic frame section. The frames are constructed of 4x6 lumber @ 42" oc and 2x6 T&G decking for floors and roof. The loft floor stops about 10' from the front wall of the structure and there are interior walls in the plane of the frame at 10'-12' spacing. The longitudinal beams shown at the edge of the loft are (3) ply 2x10's with offset butt joints. I could not find any locations with 2 plies butted at the same location so I assume they are 16' long with 5'-4" offset.

 

[BAretired]

Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

BA

 

[BAretired]

Haydenwse,

I understood your OP. What I am questioning is the connection between the beam and structure. How are the longitudinal beams
fastened to the frames?

BA

 

[KootK]

I understood the OP too. I was just trying to say that these conversations tend to take on lives and directions of their own. Folks will pursue the ideas that tickle their fancies and that doesn't necessarily imply any hangups or OP deficiencies. OP's like to think that their threads are really all about them but, in truth, that suggests a degree of responder altruism that is surely exaggerated. In significant measure, we're really in it to have our own fun. If we happen to impart any information that might actually be useful to the OP, that's just icing on the delicious cake of intellectual self gratification.

I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.

 

[BAretired]

Interesting notion.

BA

 

[KootK]

Obviously, I can only really speak to my own motivations: self edification + camaraderie + ego stroking + some genuine desire to assist. It's been something of a tightrope walk for me. If I drift from core topics too much, I draw moderator heat. If I drift too little, there's not enough in it for me to justify the considerable investment that I make of my own time and energy.

I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.

 

[Prestressed Guy]

BAretired. I am also getting the long line syndrome. Interestingly it did not happen until just after I read your post. Here is a photo of the connection between the rafter and the top of the 3-ply. I am assuming that there is also some connection to the bottom of the 3-ply to the 4x6 floor joist but could not see it.

 

[BAretired]

Haydenwse,

To get around the problem of the long lines, I am inserting my own line feed at a point where I think it ought to be.
My eyesight is a bit problematic, so my preference is to use larger text than most people which makes the long lines
difficult to read.

The typical rafter to beam connection in your latest photo seems to be fairly substantial, so I would agree with your
earlier suggestion that the longitudinal beams are probably transferring most of the roof and floor load to the partitions.
Presumably there is a column in each partition under each beam, possibly a triple stud.

The partitions are still acting as shear walls and, even if they are not lined with plywood, should still be adequate
with drywall properly fastened on each side.

BA

 

[Prestressed Guy]

BAretired. And besides as my wife puts it, "the house is cuter than all get out" She saw the listing when it was for sale and called it "The Birdhouse".

By the way, I am with you on the large text, 150% for me.

 

[BAretired]

I agree with your wife. It is a cute little house.

BA

 

[dik]

It's like balancing an egg on the head of a pin...

Dik

 

[lilypen]

Awesome design