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Deceptive Client Concerns 1

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McLJ

Structural
Feb 4, 2005
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Hi All and thanks in advance for your input. Here's my conundrum:

Roughly 4 years ago, a tenant in a residential property contacted me about a concern he had while performing some repairs. I told him at that time that I had no concerns about the issue he had contacted me about, but that if the City wanted a formal review then I would need a contract and payment. I never heard back from him.

Fast forward to this year: I was contacted by the property owner who informed me that the Building Official had requested an engineer's opinion during the course of some new 'repairs'. Upon entering the property it was immediately evident that there had been a great deal of renovation, not simply repairs. The handyman on site performing this work handed me a copy of a "Notice and Inspection Report" issued by the city Building Official. The report outlined a number if issues and insisted upon an complete structural review and permit application prior to work continuing. It was dated 2008 shortly after my conversation with the tenant.

My first issue was that the client had willingly misrepresented the work required. I contacted the building Official to make sure the report I had was the most recent and clarify exactly what he wanted as far as documentation. He wanted the full meal deal: report, photos and detailed plans suitable for permit application. I then informed my client that the work required to satisfy the Building Official was far more than originally understood and that the price would increase accordingly. She authorized me to continue and to pursue permits on her behalf.

In the mean time, she ignored all entreaties by the Building Official to contact her, at which time he contacted me to encourage her to call. Then, yesterday, the building official found both the owner and the handyman at the house, at which point he demanded, again, that all work stop until permits were issued. (That's what happens when your property is on Main Street less than 2 blocks from City Hall) He also told her at that time that in his opinion, the house was at the end of it's useful life and she should consider tearing it down as the cost of repairs would exceed to value of the property. (I agree, by the way.) He also issued a formal letter outlining the same with a request that I provide the report to him directly as soon as it is complete. This letter was copied to me by both the Building Official and the Client.

I have since received an email from the Client requesting I not deliver the report to the Building Official. Here are my thoughts:

1. Client has not been forthcoming from the beginning and has resisted all attempts at conversation by the Building Official.

2. Client insists the repairs are cosmetic and everything done up to the new letter should somehow be grandfathered in. (Considerable un-permitted structural work has been done since my first visit in 2008.)

3. I strongly suspect that if she does not like the contents of my report, she will try and find someone to write a more sympathetic report - if possible.

4. She's not going to like my report. The structure, built in the 70's, was very poorly detailed and there has been a great deal of water intrusion (top to bottom) resulting in extensive mold and rot. Previous additions were not built to any code I am aware of and some structural members are grossly over-spanned. In short, I feel it is not habitable nor safe.

5. I feel I have a duty to provide this information to the Building Official as soon as the report is finished as it is a matter of public safety.

So - Here's my question: Do I submit the report to the Building Official as he requested or not as my Client requested?

(NOTE: I am the only engineer in a very small rural town and I like being on the Building Official/Inspector's good side. Plus, he knows I'm preparing the report and plan to have it done on Monday. It's not relevant to my ethics question, but it certainly affects my working relationship with the city.)



 
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Jboggs - no, none of my work is a matter of public record until it is filed with a public agency.
What is public is the Building Official's records - his demand for a structural evaluation and my initial involvement.

Typically, you are correct and the client can do with the work whatever they please. This case is not that cut and dried.

The county where I live and perform a great deal of work has some very strict rules with lots of teeth. Once a violation has been noted, the Code Enforcement Officer (CEO) requires the retention of an engineer within 14 days of notice and the EoR is required to notify the the CEO that they have been retained. Failure to retain an engineer and file a complete permit package with 30 days becomes a $1000/day/offense fine. As the EoR on a county job, I have been directed to submit my report directly to the Code Enforcement Officer, which I have done.

As was mentioned above, this particular municipality does not give the Building Official a lot of tools for enforcement, but new rules are in the works - primarily because of this situation right here. Though it is not yet codified, I was instructed by the City BO to submit my report directly to him as well as the client. This client then directed me not to; something that has never happened before. Hence my question.

BUT - Since I told her I didn't think withholding the report from the city was an option, she fired me, so the question is now purely academic.

AND - the next poor soul who gets between these two is in for a wild ride.

Lila J. McGrew
Evergreen Engineering & Design, LLC
Everson, WA
 
...as long as the BO has the right to instruct you to submit your report directly to him... varies with jurisdiction.

Where are you Cass... something here for you... you seem to like dancing on thin ice!

Dik
 
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