molibden
Structural
- Apr 11, 2010
- 200
Hello all, I'm self employed structural engineer working mostly on small to medium sized projects. Most of them are residential, office, commercial or public buildings. I've worked with all major materials (concrete, steel, masonry, timber) but let's say my specialty is timber design. It is why most of my customers wants to work with me - working with other materials is mainly out of necessity as no project is 100% timber.
I'm from Europe so practice is different from US. Even between neighbouring countries can be totally different - probably same is in the US.
What I want to discuss is the workflow of an engineer - current and future - from beginning to end.
How do you handle changes?
Which tools do you use?
Over last two years I've became a bit frustrated with the way we design projects. Architects and engineers are working separately, sending each other files by email, plans are constantly changing as nobody really knows what others are working on. Then there are last minute changes. In the end there are always things that need to be changed prior to construction.
With all the BIM hype going on, I stayed a bit behind as the whole industry here is not really catching up. Most architects still use 2D CAD. It makes harder for me to adopt it. Some architects I work with use Archicad.
General BIM software like Revit and Allplan are great I hear, but who will manage the model? I certainly could not. I could do the structural model but that's it. I think the architects/BIM managers need to develop BIM models, others just contribute to it and use it for their own models.
Practice here is that structural engineer provides concrete reinforcement detailed plans - contractor is basically ready to work right away, they just need to do their own formwork specifications. Some engineers do also structural steel shop drawings, most of them just plans and details - contractor does shop drawings. In timber structures there are mostly just basic plans and a few details as knowledge among engineers is poor. Contractors on the other hand work with speciality software like HSB, Sema, Cadwork, Dietrich's and CNC machines. So in the end they always have an edge over engineers who really don't care much about timber. I'm one of the few who demands to check the shop 3D model before manufacturing. I also provide a lot of details for connections.
My question here is do I start working with speciality software for timber structures and try to "sell" it to the contractors? Architects probably will not want to pay extra for CNC ready model. Do you have some experience with this, maybe in steel construction?
Probably my post is a bit confusing but I hope it can develop in a good discussion.
I'm from Europe so practice is different from US. Even between neighbouring countries can be totally different - probably same is in the US.
What I want to discuss is the workflow of an engineer - current and future - from beginning to end.
How do you handle changes?
Which tools do you use?
Over last two years I've became a bit frustrated with the way we design projects. Architects and engineers are working separately, sending each other files by email, plans are constantly changing as nobody really knows what others are working on. Then there are last minute changes. In the end there are always things that need to be changed prior to construction.
With all the BIM hype going on, I stayed a bit behind as the whole industry here is not really catching up. Most architects still use 2D CAD. It makes harder for me to adopt it. Some architects I work with use Archicad.
General BIM software like Revit and Allplan are great I hear, but who will manage the model? I certainly could not. I could do the structural model but that's it. I think the architects/BIM managers need to develop BIM models, others just contribute to it and use it for their own models.
Practice here is that structural engineer provides concrete reinforcement detailed plans - contractor is basically ready to work right away, they just need to do their own formwork specifications. Some engineers do also structural steel shop drawings, most of them just plans and details - contractor does shop drawings. In timber structures there are mostly just basic plans and a few details as knowledge among engineers is poor. Contractors on the other hand work with speciality software like HSB, Sema, Cadwork, Dietrich's and CNC machines. So in the end they always have an edge over engineers who really don't care much about timber. I'm one of the few who demands to check the shop 3D model before manufacturing. I also provide a lot of details for connections.
My question here is do I start working with speciality software for timber structures and try to "sell" it to the contractors? Architects probably will not want to pay extra for CNC ready model. Do you have some experience with this, maybe in steel construction?
Probably my post is a bit confusing but I hope it can develop in a good discussion.