JeffLam
Structural
- Feb 15, 2012
- 14
Hello all,
I have two questions I'd like some advice on. I hope with your expertise I can work through these columns! I am just a junior structural working in mechanical industry with no senior mentors.
Scope of the story - platform design was outsourced by a FEA company and they made our columns rather oversized using formed channel back to back that is .5" thick sheet metal. Turns out they use ky and kx values equal to 2. Per AISC, since there is no actual bracing and straight up columns, I will agree, but there are semi possibilities that will reduce K under the right conditions. (which leads to my next 2 questions)
Question #1.
I'm trying to determine the K value for these columns on a structural platform. I remember reviewing sidesway inhibited and uninhibited in the AISC manual, but usually it's in one plane.
I'd like to know what you guys think about the k values for columns in other planes parallel to the picture I have provided.
Question #2.
Does this frame concept allow me to use column K values equal to 1? I feel like during earthquakes, it would allow the struts to direct transverse loads into the column creating a combined loading "beam-column" effect. Regardless, I'd like to know if this would be considered sidesway inhibited because technically I see that where the struts connect to the column is actually helping to restrain AND lower the length of the column. (k =1 and L is lower)
input would be greatly appreciated thanks!!!
Much Thanks!
Jeff, EIT
I have two questions I'd like some advice on. I hope with your expertise I can work through these columns! I am just a junior structural working in mechanical industry with no senior mentors.
Scope of the story - platform design was outsourced by a FEA company and they made our columns rather oversized using formed channel back to back that is .5" thick sheet metal. Turns out they use ky and kx values equal to 2. Per AISC, since there is no actual bracing and straight up columns, I will agree, but there are semi possibilities that will reduce K under the right conditions. (which leads to my next 2 questions)
Question #1.
I'm trying to determine the K value for these columns on a structural platform. I remember reviewing sidesway inhibited and uninhibited in the AISC manual, but usually it's in one plane.
I'd like to know what you guys think about the k values for columns in other planes parallel to the picture I have provided.
Question #2.
Does this frame concept allow me to use column K values equal to 1? I feel like during earthquakes, it would allow the struts to direct transverse loads into the column creating a combined loading "beam-column" effect. Regardless, I'd like to know if this would be considered sidesway inhibited because technically I see that where the struts connect to the column is actually helping to restrain AND lower the length of the column. (k =1 and L is lower)
input would be greatly appreciated thanks!!!
Much Thanks!
Jeff, EIT