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Fire destroys one of the two largest wood structures in the world... 3

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JohnRBaker

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Jun 1, 2006
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At around 1:30am this morning, fire broke-out in one the old blimp hangers in Tustin, CA. There were two blimp hangers on the site that was once a Navy and later a Marine Corp Air Station. The hangers, which were originally used to house Navy blimps used during WWII for anti-submarine patrol off the coast of Southern California, were built in 1942. And because steel and aluminum were critical war materials, they built the building using wood. They ultimately were recognized as the largest wood structures in the world, measuring over a 1,000 feet long, 300 feet wide and nearly 200 feet high.

Here's what the building looked like before today's fire:

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The Marines closed the base in 1999, and the property was turned over to the City of Tustin. Now the city wanted to tear the buildings down and fully develop the area but since these are the LARGEST wood structures in the world, they're on the National Registry and must be preserved. The problem is that neither the Pentagon nor Congress had allocated any funds to maintain the buildings, that fell to the City of Tustin.

About 10 years ago the roof of one of the buildings started to deteriorate to the point where they had to install a system of externally supported cables to keep it in place. That was when the city started to lobby to at least tear down one of the buildings, but they got nowhere.

Now as for what happened today, while no one is saying that it was anything other than accidental, it was the building that the city had been trying its hardest to get rid of that suddenly caught fire at 1:30 am this morning ;-)

BTW, the reason I know so much about these buildings is that they're located about six miles from our house.

Anyway, here's a news item about the fire:

Massive fire destroying landmark World War II-era blimp hangar in Tustin


Note that while in the article there are pictures showing the fire department attempting to put out the fire, they've since pulled-back and are just letting it burn. No one is in danger and there's little chance that any property, private or otherwise, is at risk.

When I heard about the fire, I grabbed my camera and went to get some of my own pictures. By the time I got there, around 9:00am, the police had already blocked most of the streets which run close to the building but I managed to get close enough that eventually the police did notice and I was asked to move, but not before I got some pictures.

This the first picture I got from the parking lot of a strip-mall:

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November 2023 (Sony a6500, 135mm)

This was shot from the spot that the police had to chase me out of:

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November 2023 (Sony a6500, 135mm)

I finally found another place with a good view that the police were not restricting people from standing:

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November 2023 (Sony a6500, 135mm)

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November 2023 (Sony a6500, 135mm)

Note that these last two shots were the last ones that I took. I'm going to go back later today and get some shots of what I assume will be a totally collapsed and burnt-out structure.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
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Used to love driving by the hangers as a child in the 50's and into the 60's. Never new they were completely made of wood.
 
Nice pictures, John.
Thank you.
Bill

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Time to update Wikipedia:

Today, seven six of these wooden hangars still exist: Moffett Field (2), Tustin, California (21), Tillamook, Oregon (1), Lakehurst, New Jersey (2).
 

When I was young, I used to carry my Nikon F-2 with me all the time. It was surprising how many 'tight spots' you could talk your way out of back then, if you were carrying a 'real' camera... [pipe]

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The Tillamook one has better not burn down. Lots of neat stuff in there.

The structure, standing alone and obsolete obviously wasn't worth saving from a personell risk standpoint. Still, it's sad to think of all of that old growth timber going up in smoke. Doubly sad when I need to replace my tongue and groove decking on my front porch. I need clear heart wood because it needs to be waterproof. $$$
 
Note that Tustin still has ONE of the blimp hanger still intact, so yes, the number of existing blimp hangers in the US has been reduced by one.

We drove down past the area on our way to dinner late this afternoon and most of the Eastern side of the building is now completely gone. It's actually amazing how much of the Western side still stands. The police were still keeping traffic off of the streets that run closest to the building so I didn't try and get any shots this afternoon. However, I'm going to go back in the morning and see if I can get some shots of what's left. Maybe they'll have relaxed some of the restrictions by then.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
 
I don't know if I ever knew Hangars #5 and #6 here in Lakehurst were wooden. I've spent a good amount of time in Hangar 1, but I don't know if I've ever even been in Hangars 5 or 6. There was a big to-do after the Sandy storm damaged one of them because of the roof height, but fire risk wasn't high on my list of what-ifs.

- Andrew
 
Metal was a war material and wood wasn't. Lakehurst is listed as having 2 blimp/dirigible hangers made of wood.
 
I've been inside the one at Lakehurst; it's funky to think of a structure large enough that a helicopter could easily fit and fly through it. When I first saw the interior structure, I was thinking it was all rusty steel, and only later found out that it was all wood.

We were driving down the 55 at around 9am that morning; was that only yesterday?

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IRstuff, were you in Hangar 1 (the big one), or in one of the shorter wood ones? Hangar 1 is mostly steel.

- Andrew
 
I stopped to take some more pictures this morning and while I taking them this guy walked up and asked if they knew who did this. I said that I hadn't heard that it was anything but accidental, but the guy replied that it was obviously a terrorist attack, by Hamas or maybe Isis. When I asked why he thought that was the case, he said that this was an attack on the military since this is a Marine base. I told him that they closed this base in 1999, but he insisted that the terrorists might not know that and that they were everywhere, just looking for ways to attack us. Now this guy looked like a reasonable person, maybe 35 - 40-years old, but he sounded paranoid, insisting that it had to be terrorists.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
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The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
 
Just scary...

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-Dik
 
but he insisted that the terrorists might not know that and that they were everywhere, just looking for ways to attack us.

I guess that's not entirely implausible, but the fact that no one has claimed responsibility for it says otherwise

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Even if it were "terrorists" I'd class this more as vandalism than a real attack :)

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand
 
The terrorists might not know that the base was closed 24 years ago? He realizes they have access to the internet, right? And, you now...eyes...
 
Yes, when terrorist do something, it's to cause terror. No one felt anything except that it was a shame that such an historical building was gone, hardly the type of thing that terrorists would do. After all, no one was killed. No major infrastructure was destroyed. No one was without power or water or gas or ...

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
 
There are people always looking for the boogey man. We witnessed an individual having a meltdown over signing the digital screen for a credit card purchase. I believe this individual had some form of mental limitation, but they were getting quite agitated and blaming the clerk for erasing the signature every time they attempted to sign. They were also quite agitated that the signature on the screen did not match their normal signature. It was suggested to use the finger to sign instead of the stylus, to which they replied that they were not going to have their DNA scanned by that device.

We wouldn't be so paranoid if the world wasn't out to get us.
 
While others mourn the loss, I'm often more amazed that buildings survived so long, esp when they're massive like these are. I havent been to Lakehurst in ~20 years but in the 90s their blimp hangars were hardly used, had really expensive maintenance issues, and were being considered for demolition. One was still used by the military but the other two were the most absurd warehouses I've ever seen - very tall (50'?) pallet racking looked tiny in those spaces.
 
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