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flow of pipe from absorbed current
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electricpete
Electrical
what do you mean by current... electrical current?
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(2B)+(2B)' ?
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(2B)+(2B)' ?
SandCounter
Mechanical
You need to know voltage, pressure, power factor and efficiency.
voltage x current x power factor = power
efficiency x power/pressure = flow
Watch your units.
I used to count sand. Now I don't count at all.
voltage x current x power factor = power
efficiency x power/pressure = flow
Watch your units.
I used to count sand. Now I don't count at all.
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LittleInch
Petroleum
Yes you can but it'd not very accurate, probably 10 to 15% at best.
Easiest way is to find the pump curve. Note that the power on a pump curve is shaft power not motor inlet power. You also need to know motor efficiency to change electrical power to shaft power.
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Easiest way is to find the pump curve. Note that the power on a pump curve is shaft power not motor inlet power. You also need to know motor efficiency to change electrical power to shaft power.
Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.
MohdYaseen2010
Mechanical
I am agree with SandCounter but let me make it more precise;
Power Input (KW) * 1000 = Power Factor x Current (Amps) x Voltage x (Phases Numbers)½
This power is Input Power to Motor, so you need to know the motor efficiency in order to know the Output Power from the motor which is the Shaft Power (BHP) which is the input power to the pump.
by knowing the BHP then you can use below equation to get out with your Q (flow-rate)
BHP (KW) = (9.81 x Q(m3/s) x TDH (m) x S.G / Pump Efficiency)
I also agree with LittleInch regarding the unaccuracy of the resultant come from the calculation above, nevertheless I didn't agree on the divergent percentage (I think its low than this percentage).
Mohd Yaseen
Power Input (KW) * 1000 = Power Factor x Current (Amps) x Voltage x (Phases Numbers)½
This power is Input Power to Motor, so you need to know the motor efficiency in order to know the Output Power from the motor which is the Shaft Power (BHP) which is the input power to the pump.
by knowing the BHP then you can use below equation to get out with your Q (flow-rate)
BHP (KW) = (9.81 x Q(m3/s) x TDH (m) x S.G / Pump Efficiency)
I also agree with LittleInch regarding the unaccuracy of the resultant come from the calculation above, nevertheless I didn't agree on the divergent percentage (I think its low than this percentage).
Mohd Yaseen
It is difficult enough to get accurate pump performance data in an installation using the proper measuring equipment, so trying to establish flowrate from current input will be neigh on impossible.
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
SandCounter
Mechanical
Mohd,
Thanks for filling in the gaps, especially on the electrical side.
I used to count sand. Now I don't count at all.
Thanks for filling in the gaps, especially on the electrical side.
I used to count sand. Now I don't count at all.
Going back to Mohd's post re calculation.
Rightly pump efficiency has been included in the calculation - can we assume the OP has a pump curve to establish efficiency, if that is the case then the OP can after calculating the input power to the pump you can read off the approx. flowrate from the HQ curve - about as accurate as any other guess work establishing flow.
Without having the pump efficiency - there is no way the flow rate can be established.
It would also be interested if the OP is talking about a 1kW or 1000kW pump unit.
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
Rightly pump efficiency has been included in the calculation - can we assume the OP has a pump curve to establish efficiency, if that is the case then the OP can after calculating the input power to the pump you can read off the approx. flowrate from the HQ curve - about as accurate as any other guess work establishing flow.
Without having the pump efficiency - there is no way the flow rate can be established.
It would also be interested if the OP is talking about a 1kW or 1000kW pump unit.
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
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