Honda Recall - 3.5L main bearing problems

[drwebb]

So Honda is having trouble with their V6 main bearings: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/business/honda-engine-recall/index.html

Not a good look such a basic component has a defect coming from an OEM that leans into their engine durability prowess (or at least used to).

 

[TugboatEng]

I joke sometimes that a sign of good quality control is that every vehicle has the same problems because they are built so consistently. Quality control doesn't fix engineering oversight.

 

[SwinnyGG]

I joke sometimes that a sign of good quality control is that every vehicle has the same problems because they are built so consistently. Quality control doesn't fix engineering oversight.

I get framing this as a joke, but it's pretty damn accurate.

In my past life as a designer of equipment, we had a similar mantra - which was 'A bad process is just as easy to get under fine control as a good process'.

Sometimes the process design itself is the problem, and you don't know it's bad until you've built enough product to see the low rate issues appear.

 

[mfgenggear]

I get framing this as a joke, but it's pretty damn accurate.

In my past life as a designer of equipment, we had a similar mantra - which was 'A bad process is just as easy to get under fine control as a good process'.

Sometimes the process design itself is the problem, and you don't know it's bad until you've built enough product to see the low rate issues appear.

Well it depends on the level of experience of engineers and the support group.
Which I am surprised Honda is having issues.
Data or science is only as good as its sound
Accurate data collected.
Here's what we know , there is a recall, so there's an issue. We don't have enough information until we dig up the actual facts.

 

[SwinnyGG]

We actually don't know that there is an issue.

The original article and the later linked article about GM 6.2 engines are both reporting on NHTSA investigations, not recalls. Investigations can turn into recalls, but they aren't the same thing.

 

[mfgenggear]

We actually don't know that there is an issue.

The original article and the later linked article about GM 6.2 engines are both reporting on NHTSA investigations, not recalls. Investigations can turn into recalls, but they aren't the same thing.

Well wait and see. What the investigation determines.
But it could be minor or major otherwise why open an investigation. And why recall.