Tabaluga
Structural
- Dec 29, 2009
- 27
Hi,
I wanted to get a quick second opinion on the following. I am specifying uniformly loaded beams and plates bolted on both ends to rigid supports and have used the conservative simply supported scenario to get the midspan bending moments (and reactions at supports) as per sketch. Now, for checking the bolts, a co-worker included in calculation bolt tension a force equal to the support reaction. Is there any possibility that that is a correct and valid rule when designing connections? I have tried to get an explanation, but it's not making sense - am I missing something? From basic mechanics all of the reaction force will be transferred to the supporting members, so the bolts should not be taking any tension (and are not even needed as far as resisting that load).
The only other possibility, although I am sure that's not what's they had in mind: If you consider that the connection is bolted at the ends, in reality there will be some prying tension (and shear) induced due to rotation of ends under midspan deflection - which I thought can be ignored if we stayed within the allowable deflection limits.
If anyone has come across something similar any suggestions how best to model this would be appreciated. I don't want a complex analysis lecture, but rather a practical and accepted approach to this or similar scenario. Thanks.
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." (A. Einstein)
I wanted to get a quick second opinion on the following. I am specifying uniformly loaded beams and plates bolted on both ends to rigid supports and have used the conservative simply supported scenario to get the midspan bending moments (and reactions at supports) as per sketch. Now, for checking the bolts, a co-worker included in calculation bolt tension a force equal to the support reaction. Is there any possibility that that is a correct and valid rule when designing connections? I have tried to get an explanation, but it's not making sense - am I missing something? From basic mechanics all of the reaction force will be transferred to the supporting members, so the bolts should not be taking any tension (and are not even needed as far as resisting that load).
The only other possibility, although I am sure that's not what's they had in mind: If you consider that the connection is bolted at the ends, in reality there will be some prying tension (and shear) induced due to rotation of ends under midspan deflection - which I thought can be ignored if we stayed within the allowable deflection limits.
If anyone has come across something similar any suggestions how best to model this would be appreciated. I don't want a complex analysis lecture, but rather a practical and accepted approach to this or similar scenario. Thanks.
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." (A. Einstein)