How to fix this? 2

[XR250]

W8x67 flush beam w/ 2x10 joists on each side. This is how I showed the beam being packed out....

This is what I got.. Basically, they did not put the OSB in and just cranked the (2)2x8 into the kern of the beam so it is sitting about 3/8" inside the edge of the flange...


Now the hangers are not plumb and are bent. Not sure how to put a number to this. I realize the lower nails are missing but I am not even close to the hanger capacity. I'd like GC to take it down and do the padding correctly if not adding a bit thicker so it sits 1/4" proud of the beam as this will give them the opportunity to clean up the joist cuts. He will be upset to say the least. The entire installation is not great. I mean it is only an 1800 lb beam x 25 ft. long.

 

[KootK]

If we're going to do the punitive thing, it would be nice if we could just be more honest about it and accept bribes.

Dear Mr. Contractor. You've taken some liberties. I'm okay with it in this instance but I'm afraid that I must disincentivize such behavior in the future. So you'll need to give me $1,500.

- Better for XR250

- Better for the contractor.

- Vastly better for the environment.

Modern sensibilities being what they are, disassembling a new, perfectly good thing and replacing it isn't a great look.

 

[EdStainless]

My house has one that is done a lot like this one ended up.
And now there is hump across the floor of the living room.
Is it an issue with load? Not at all.
But the floor may not be flat as things settle.

 

[jerseyshore]

Not sure if it was mentioned above but there is a difference between seeing a problem like this and getting asked your thoughts vs having to put something in writing/ a letter for the town to pass inspection.

I find it relatively easy to tell people that if I need to write a letter then it has to be "up to code" or "work on paper".

If someone sends me this photo, do I think it's pretty? No. Am I losing an ounce of sleep over it. No way.

My am-I-concerned residential meter is Lack of redundancy-->>>lots of redundancy.

Here we have a lot of joists spaced evenly x both sides x lot of nails x hangers = lots of redundancy.

 

[Ron247]

I see this as 3 issues more than 2 problems. One, it looks really unprofessional and unsanitary. If the final product is exposed to view, I would want it corrected as the engineer or the owner. If it is covered up, I could live with it if I had to.

Two, can it support the required loading? If it can support all required loads, it resolves issue 2. It works. If load testing is not good enough, why do they load test lift equipment periodically?

Three, they did not perform the work as designed, bid on and accepted? They did not, question answered. This seems to be the harder issue to resolve. I have worked for and have been a contractor. Of the mistakes we made, they were not indicative of all the work we did or would intentionally do in the future. As far as other contractors I know, just like ALL professions including us, there are good people and dirt bags. Good people appreciate us cutting them some slack when something is not "jam-up" and dirt bags take it as you giving them a lifetime hall pass. Our decision process does include relationships, final outcome, Client loyalty and MANY other factors. For me, one of the early conclusions I have to make is, "Am I dealing with a dirt bag?"

The original post says the lumber sets back 3/8". That is a fairly good size gap. I still question the excess notching. If you look at the wood near the 2nd nail from the top, it looks like another splinter on the edge of the bracket. Can't tell how far he notched it. The toenails resist uplift and horizontal separation. Without the toenails, you rely on subfloor to tie everything together laterally. I have never seen a note on a drawing indicated where subfloor must join. Hope they never have to take the subfloor up due to rot or termites. I also hope the subfloor spans across the connection a good bit. I have seen it be joined on the end of a joist. The long joint is generally not staggered like a short direction joint.

 

[mfgenggear]

So this not a design issue as well.
Why blocking not use or a more dimensionally
Appropriate header?
Why did the contractor not point this out as he or she should. Lots of questions.

 

[mfgenggear]

And what does code depict does it pass?

 

[ViaParadise]

Sorry if it's been mentioned already. Can you just ask them shore up the end about a 1' or so out then just add some angles with a leg to reach out to your 2x10. Simpson has them as well so it shouldn't be too crazy either finding something with a close enough load rating.

 

[DominicLee]

Thank you for this interesting information!