how to put border around detail in NX4

[bobmac8989]

Hello,

I work with NX4.
can anybody tell me how to show the border around a detail made with rectanglar boundery on a drawing?
I now get the border in the main drawing but not around the detail.
If I use the circular boundery then I get the border.

Another question is how to add line in a drawing.

Thanks Bob McIntyre

 

[Crocostimpy]

I just went and created a rectangular detail because I thought I knew how to do it, but I can't get the outline to appear. It teases you and blinks for a second when you set the view, but then it goes away. And anytime you change something in the Style menu for the view and hit Apply it will blink on for a second but then go away again. Hmmm.

I think the answer to your second question is to sketch in a view. Go to Insert - Sketch. It will ask you to select a view to sketch in. You can somewhat constrain the sketch to the view, but I think it's like in Modeling where you can't constrain to most of the solid model, you need some curves. Honestly it's been a while since I've sketched in a drawing because I started having problems with the lines not appearing after I supposedly sketch them. Now I just sketch in the 3d and put the curve on a layer and show that layer in the view. YMMV

Mike

 

[JohnRBaker]

The issue is that we are not aware of any known drafting standard that supports boundaries around the actual rectangular detail view. In fact, most standards indicate that a circular detail view is the preferred approach in almost all situations.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[bobmac8989]

John,

if I have a very small step in my product that runs over a large area then if I use a circular detail my drawing sheet is full and I have to use a second sheet. With a retangular detail I can exactly show the area on sheet 1.
Rectangular details are often used with ejectorpins in the mold- and dieindustry.

The answer of Crocostimpy helped, I have now used sketch to create the boundery on my drawing.
Thanks Crocostimpy!

Bob

 

[Crocostimpy]

Glad it worked for you Bob.

John, I can understand your logic here. But if I'm allowed to make a rectangular detail view, for whatever my reason may be, I think it only fair that I can show the border around it, just like a circular one. Not every company follows drafting standards to the letter.

ps. I'm not trying to start an argument here about standards, I'm just saying. : )

Mike

 

[Xwheelguy]

bobmac,

If you don't care for sketching in Drafting, you can also MB3 over the detail view and pick Expand from the pulldown. This will take you from the drawing view to only viewing INSIDE the detail view (View Dependent). From there, you can draw your boundary curves (circle, rectangle, ellipse or whatever) for the view boundary, Expand out of the detail and then set a new View Boundary for the detail view using the View Dependent curve(s) you created.

I rarely use the included automatic detail boudaries because they don't allow for the controls or options that I would like to have and I despise creating a rectangle from center...not very accurate for enclosing a specific area which usually results in me having to redefine the rectangle size a second or third time. I typically just manually draw the detail boundary as View Dependent (or as part of a Sketch) for both the parent view and resulting detail view as described above.

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.

http://www.enkei.com

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[ewh]

I use Tim's method. Not as automatic as a circular boundary, but not a whole lot of work to achieve, either.
As for adding a line in a drawing, you don't need to create a sketch. Simply Insert -> Curve... This is not the solution for your boundary issue, however.

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[hudson888]

I think that I would just use curves to draw the required rectangle and then change the view to be bounded by those objects. Doing using expand member view would be how I'd go about it. It would be nice were it more convenient, but in the meantime there's nothing stopping you from using the circular option where possible.

Cheers

Hudson

 

[bobmac8989]

Tim,

thank you for your response. I also like to have more freedom in determining the size of my detail as to get them exactly as I like them to be in size.
I will try out your methode.

Bobmac