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ac1980

ac1980

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Mar 22, 2010
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new to this forum, looking for some valuable suggestion. how do you typically deal with senior persons who are of the "ninja claw" type? i am facing problems with working with an individual who gets to make the calls in projects (by virtue of position), and whenever i come up with better method/mode to do things faster/better, i get completely cut off from that project right after! its almost like i tried to push this person out of his comfort zone and made his insecured, and so being cut off is my punishment. this person expects me to do his "dirty" work at all times, and tries to keep me at bay from all design/engineering work. i would appreciate if someone can offer some suggestion.
 
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Being I don't have constructive advice and do all my research via old TV reruns, I'll give useless advice -its worth the price.

If you haven't noticed yet, life is unfair, every one has a pet, shi# rolls down hill, and the junior engineer typically gets the shi* end of the stick-a perq for being "senior".

So when life is being so very unfair, and some mean old man is being cruel to you for no reason, stand in front of the mirror and say

"I'm smart enough to do this. I'm good enough to do this."

I was going to quote from Full Metal Jacket, but that probably would not have been sufficiently PC.
 
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Wow your too harsh, this whole thread is way out there. "Can't we all just get along?"
 
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beej67 said:
I've found that the best way to deal with overbearing seniors who don't want to do what you suggest out of pride, is present it in such a sneaky way that they *think* it was *their* idea.

This trick works with senior engineers, government regulators, cops, wives, mothers in law, angry Wal Mart cashiers, anybody really. It takes some time to master, but once you do, it's one of the most handy social engineering methods you'll ever learn.
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Still looking up for that trick!

As a junior, I find that the generation gap is really hard to overcome with some senior engineers. Especially when you know, from experience, that they were sometimes wrong.
 
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As a senior, I find that the generation gap is really hard to overcome with some junior engineers. Especially when you know, from experience, that they were often wrong.

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The only thing I find hard to understand/accept about the generation gap is young men insisting their pants need to hang off their butt cheeks displaying their underwear or worse. As if that looks stylish and they look cool waddling around trying to keep their pants up. You're not a duck! Or are you? :)
 
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Despite my previous comment, I only find there is a problem due to a generation gap when there is no due respect shown by either or both parties.

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Aretha does it for me.

I once used her name as a password to lock my step kids out of the internet for that exact reason, or lack thereof. It was cryptic enough to keep them out until they got it about what was required.

Funny, they did not see the joke despite having seen the Blues Bros recently.

I even had them play the song numerous times with a comment it contained the clue to the password.

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Pat,

They probably needed Google to find out who was singing the song... and you locked them out ;-)





I have Senior in my title, but I like to think of myself as still a young pup (despite what my knees and back often tell me). I guess I need to learn how to respect myself...

Dan - Owner
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I had "senior" in my title way back when I first started. It didn't mean anything much of course, but now I am truly senior I dread when folks started calling me "granpa" I mean, is there a title "Grandad Engineer"? If not, I'm sure HR will come up with it for some reason or another.

JMW
 
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I didn't know that men having their drawers hanging down to the mudflap was a generational thing-we used to call them plumbers.

I guess it's sexist, the plumber's pants look foolish, but I don't mind duck skirts.
 
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Have you ever touched your toes with bib overalls on that were not at least a few sizes to big.

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Pat
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As a senior, I find that the generation gap is really hard to overcome with some junior engineers. Especially when you know, from experience, that they were often wrong.
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IMO, many senior engineers have never advanced with new technologies, products, processes, etc.. They continue to repeat what has always worked for them, without questioning themselves. They see them like that, Juniors. Without seeing what the "Duo" can do if they let some space.

Especially in civil engineering / hydrology I think.
Don't get me wrong, I personally do trust and rely on some of the seniors here, but they're a minority.

Hope to be different as a senior.
 
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