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Looking for documentation for sheet layout. Trying to counter US Army Corp of Eng @#$# standards

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rickusace

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Apr 3, 2010
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Does anyone know of any CAD standards for laying out structural drawings? We are being told to use the US Army Corps of Engineer's standards which from what I've seen is complete garbage. It takes items that are normally grouped together like column schedules, base plate details, and column splices and breaks it apart. The fabricators and contractors don't like it because it is difficult to follow. I tried to review a set of drawings that use their standard, and it is difficult to follow. It does not flow properly. They place ALL of the schedules on one sheet without any sections or details to support them. They reuse sheet numbers but just change the lettering in front like SB-301 and SF-301. It gets confusing.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

From my experience in the private sector working for places like Black & Vetch, Walter P Moore, and Burns & McDonnel this is what I'm used to seeing;

S-000 series, general notes, abbreviations, legend, wind loadings, snow drift, all typical detail sheets
S-100 series, PLANS; foundation plan, basement plan, floor plans, roof plan  (for demo plans use SD-XXX for the sheets.  Place these sheets in front of the regular S sheets)

S-101 Foundtion Plan, ground floor
S-101A blow up plan sheet as needed
S-101B blow up plan sheet as needed

S-102 Second floor framing plan
S-102A blow up plan sheet as needed
S-102B blow up plan sheet as needed

S-103 Third floor framing plan
S-103A blow up plan sheet as needed
S-103B blow up plan sheet as needed

S-150 series, PLANS for special purposes like special slab reinforcing for progressive collapse, or slab on grade control joints.

S-151 Foundtion Plan, ground floor control joint location
S-151A blow up plan sheet as needed
S-151B blow up plan sheet as needed

S-152 Second floor slab reinforcing for progressive collapse
S-152A blow up plan sheet as needed
S-152B blow up plan sheet as needed

S-153 Third floor slab reinforcing for progressive collapse
S-153A blow up plan sheet as needed
S-153B blow up plan sheet as needed

S-200 series, ELEVATIONS wall elevations, brick shelves elevations, bracing elevations, girts elevations, truss elevations, cast in place concrete wall special reinforcing

S-300 series, FOUNDATION SECTIONS & DETAILS, footing schedule, footing sections, drilled piers, grade beams, truck dock,

S-400 series, FRAMING SECTIONS & DETAILS; floor and roof sections, framing details

S-500 series, STAIRS AND ELEVATORS; interior and exterior stairs, elevator pit,

S-600 series, FRAMING SCHEDULES.  Column schedule, base plate schedule & details, anchor bolt schedule & details, steel connection schedule and details.

S-700 series, EXTERIOR ITEMS; trash screen wall, retaining walls






 
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Getting a government agency to change the way they do things is going to take a lot more effort than getting your team to comply with their standards.
 
I see 000 for general stuff, 100 for foundation but it's more often 200 for second floor, etc. But this would only do much good for your shorter buildings...

I'm not familiar with COE standards but they don't do buildings that often, do they? That seems to be more GSA.
 
If it's your client and a government agency, god speed to you sir! You are going to lose, and frustrate yourself in the process.
 
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