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modeling of a piezoelectric composite plate 1

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alinalin

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Nov 27, 2005
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Use ANSYS to analyze a piezoelectric composite plate:

Is there any way of inputing the material matrices of piezoelectric composite before transformation and then add an angle? I searched for the elements of
the structural layered composite, and they don't have the DOF of voltage-that's why I can not use this kind of elements. So, the only way is to input the material matrices (elastic, piezoelectric and dielectric matricex) after transformation?

Because I need to keep the DOFs of three displacements and voltage, I can only choose SOLID5 as the element type. It causes a problem that I can not mesh a thin plate with small size elements-the thickness of the plate can not be
divied up to the requirement of accuracy. How to solve this problem?

Appreciate your reply!
 
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Hi

It looks like you want to do an Coupled-Field analyse.
So you need to take an look at that.

Gtrz
Garry
 
Thank you! I've read through the part of coupled-field analysis, but I can not solve my problem.
 
Hi

You want to model piezoelectric composite, and look at the displacemants what are caused by Volt?

You can make this work by using an struc-elek coupled-field analyse with an shell element.

Grtz
Garry
 
Thanks! I have to use 3-D elements because I need to calculate three displacements and voltage. Then, I got too many DOFs for a thin plate and the thickness can not be discritized by enough nodes.
 
I'm not quite sure if I understand the question but you can use SOLID98 elements and change one of the keyopts to give you ux,uy,uz and volts DOFs only.
 
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The solid98 is the high order elemnt of solid5. And it will not help him. The best thing for him to do is to use a shell element( because of the thin elements).

Grtz
Garry
 
Thanks for the reply! I need to have the DOFs: Ux, Uy, Uz, Volt. And the version of ANSYS I used can not handle more than 256,000 nodes. For the thin piezoelectric composite plate which is made of several layers of piezoelectricity with different layer-up angles, the simplest element I can use is SOLID5. I read through the elements for modeling layered composites(SHELL99, 91, 181 etc.). They don't have have DOF of voltage.
 
Hi

There are two ways of doing it:
-using solid element 5/98, with this element you can do an direct coupled analysis, but when your volume is very thin you maybe get bad results. Also it is easier to model.
-using shell elements, with this element you can model thin elements. Disadvantage you need to do and couple-field analysis. Its also difficult to model the layers. Advantage is the amongt of elements which can be very low. So you decide what you want to do!

Grtz
Garry
 
Hello!

I got an ANSYS error message, which consequence is still unclear to me:

Specified constraint not allowd on slave DOF in coupled set. Coupled set No.1 First node=2 Slave node= xxxx DOF=volt
Move constraints to first node or remove coupling and constrain all.

Does anyone can give me a hint, where to find some more information concerning this error message? Or can anyone explain me the backgrounds of this error?

Thanks

Alex
 
ansysfreak, thanks for the post!
I used the direct method to model the thin structure and can not get good results. I don't quite understand what you said about the second method (sequential method). I only apply electric potential to the plate. How can I model with shell elements without the DOF of volt? To do a piezoelectric analysis, the manual have specialized six kinds of elements:
plane13/223, solid5/98, solid226/227.
 
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