NX6 COORDINATE SYSTEMS 3

[delliott]

I am trying to find a way, if it's even possible, to turn off whatever it is that keeps adding coordinate systems in my file every time I do anything, from moving faces, to moving parts. a coordinate system keeps popping up, and i have to constantly remove parameters to delete them out. this occurs even in history-free mode. is there a way to stop that?

 

[Vikingbro]

(placing tongue firmly in my cheek)

Brink back the PFK!

I want to go back to the numbered menus!

8 - 2 - Entry Complete - Entry Complete solved ALL problems!

(removing tongue from cheek)

Chris Cooper
Senior CAD Specialist
Cleveland Golf / Never Compromise

http://www.clevelandgolf.com

http://www.nevercompromise.com

 

[JohnRBaker]

And for those of you who don't have the vaguest idea what Chris is talking about, you can go here to learn all about the PFK:

http://plmworld.org/museum/hall/History_of_the_PFK.htm

Be sure to go all the way to the end of the page and then select the picture on the right side of the paragraph which will take you to a little 6-page tutorial showing you how the Unigraphics menu system worked and how you used the PFK to select menu options. BTW, this is exactly how UG worked when I took my FIRST class out in Carson, CA (in the old post office building on Avalon Blvd) 33 years ago next week, when the company I was working for at the time purchased a 3 seat Unigraphics system from United Computing Company (now you know where the 'Uni' in 'Unigraphics' came from).

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[tryitagain]

That's exactly the PLM attitude:

"And contrary to what existing users might like to think...."

... only be worried about new customers and therefore new seats.

What PLM didn't do was to talk to designers, who have to work on a daily basis with a tool which reached the peak of its performance in NX3. It can not be the case, that a software programer decides how my work has to be done. he only has to provide the tool, not the procedure.

Have you ever thought about your statement "easier tu use"? In which matter? If you start which NX, I agree. But if you get used to it your way of developing something will change. That flexibility is defenitely gone (or almost).

May be I phrased it wrong, but to make it clear I started with 10.4 and used every new main release and skipped only the main release NX4.
I was self employed 10 years and designed molds with UG/NX up to NX3. That means I had to make money with my designs. Today I'm happy, that one of my customers hiered me for a more responsible job, but still using NX. I would be in a bad shape, if I still would be self employed. In my opinion effecient work is no longer possible as it was up to NX3.

Here some things you can not wipe out (compared to NX3):
1. A whole lot more mouse clicks for the same action
2. constantly moving the menue bar across the screen
3. selection menue is way to complicated and therefore it takes too long to select something.
4. reaction time is way to long (point menue)

There is a whole lot more what is disimproved.

My recommendation: Talk to designers if you are interested in a honest opinion and improvement, not to an IT department or purchasing.

 

[JohnRBaker]

I'm sorry but the new user interface style (introduced with NX 5.0) was thoroughly tested by existing users. We set up what we called a 'productivity lab' both in our development offices and temporarily at National Users Meetings, both here in the states and overseas, where we invited both long time and newer users to actually test many of the basic concepts we were developing and based on their feedback, we made many changes and adjustments. This process took several years and is still being done today as we continue to evolve the look and feel, as well as the behavior of the menus, dialogs and on-screen manipulation tools.

We are NOT ONLY worried about new customers, HOWEVER if we are not able to compete and win new business, our ability to support our current customers in any manner whatsoever would be severely curtailed. Ask the people who used to use Applicon, Calma, Computervision, CADAM, EMS, etc.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[ewh]

Personally, I think Applicon had a lot going for it and were ahead of their time... but time moves on. Computervision, on the other hand, pretty much required learning a new language. More typing, less mouse moving to pick commands.

"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - [small]Robert Hunter[/small]

 

[Vikingbro]

I have been using variations of the program since Unigraphics v8.

I must admit that the new interface at NX5 was a challenge, but is am SO much faster now than I was then.

The new UI just takes some getting used to, that's all.

Chris Cooper
Senior CAD Specialist
Cleveland Golf / Never Compromise

http://www.clevelandgolf.com

http://www.nevercompromise.com

 

[jerry1423]

I have been on Unigraphics constantly since V5.
The thing about the PFK keys is that you could punch in several commands and (since computers were so slow) you could leave your desk, and hopefully all the commands would be completed by the time you got back.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Yes, and that was called 'running a muscle macro' ;-)

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[hudson888]

I've also been using Unigraphics since at least V5 on a full time basis. Believe it or not I was aware of its inception in the company that I worked for as far back as date release. When I first saw it I was so dazzled by this new technology I decided to pursue a career that took me a few years before I was even able to get the opportunity to use it properly. My fondest memories of the early stuff were PFK tricks that you could play whenever another operator left their seat so that the next time they hit Display Refresh upon their return something unexpected resulted! For non early users imagine a system where when you drew a line the screen did not refresh, so that you had to keep hitting the Display Refresh button to see the graphical results of your work.

As for the question the only time I'm aware of slight difficulties with residual entities appearing that you need to somehow manage or clean up is in some cases after you add deformed components. By all means let us know if that figures in your scenario.

As for performance issues I'm not particularly bent out of shape by the menu issues, but starting with the New Hole feature as far back as NX-5 we have been aware that some dialogs seemed a little latent. On the other hand testing of modelling speed over several versions with the same hardware showed that for most tasks the software has improved in performance. Whether you were running the old green screen Tektronix/Data General clunker, or today's Windows based systems there's no way of getting around the fact that users perceive the performance relative to the user interface more of the time.

Best Regards

Hudson

www.jamb.com.au

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