NX9 Drafting : Cylindrical face "Rapid" dimensioning !?

[stephlouv]

Hello,

Upgraded from NX8.0.3 to NX9.0.1.3 during the week-end.

In NX 8, the "inferred" dimensioning tool was smart enough to detect cylindrical face and place his diameter.
"Fly over" the cylincal face, select it, place the dimension. 2 clics and it's done.

In NX 9, the "Rapid"... "Inferred" doesn't !!!!
Need to select both sides of the dimension, fight against the selection of end point/line/edge/intersection/middle it propose, for each side and then finally place de dimension ...
Exhausting. Borring and SLOWER
Even if we specify "Cylindrical" in Method, it doesn't help.

And as a major part of our product are revolded based ...

I'am close to nervous breakdown. That's no possible, i'am missing something !?

Thank you all for your help



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[stephlouv]

NX9

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[stephlouv]

NX8 video

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[JohnRBaker]

Have you actually tried to dimension, in NX 8.0 using 'Inferred' dimensions, the Drawing that you've shown in your NX 9.0 video?

And have you actually tried to dimension, in NX 9.0 using 'Inferred' dimensions, the Drawing that you'ev shown in your NX 8.0 video?

I think you find that there is not all that much difference in what you have to do to get the 'Cylindrical' dimensions that you want.

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[MANox]

Hey,

I find very intresting thing with insert dimension (with "Inferred" option) to thread hole.
For thread line symbol "∅" automaticly added to dimension. First and second time I can select line.
For every others holes don't insert that symbol. First time I can select line, but second only point.

Best regard

Michał Nowak

 

[stephlouv]

And why doesn't it call out the thread definition parameters by default .... ???

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[JohnRBaker]

There is a 'Hole Callout' option when creating a 'Radial' dimension. This 'Hole Callout' option is not on the 'Rapid' dimension dialog, only the explicit 'Radial' dimension.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[JohnRBaker]

stephlouv, did you got back and perform the tests that I suggested in my post from last week?

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[MANox]

Hey,

1. I tested it.
John, you are right. NX 8.5 and NX 9 works that same.
With normal (no section) view, if I select cylindrical face - NX insert dimension with "∅". Two click and end.
With section view, it's imposible. I don't know why. Program with a 40-year tradition could begin to perform such a basic and simple thing. Example with thread hole show - it's possible.

2. Thread hole:
It's only one way to dimension thread hole.
We use two dimension for dimensioning thread hole: Thread size and thread deep (like on attached picture)
In my opinion should have as the choice of dimensioning. A program should allow me to implementing the best solution for me.

Best regards

Michał Nowak

 

[stephlouv]

Hello John,

About the tests.
The first one, I can't, the file have been saved under NX9 and can no longer be open in NX8.
The second, it's OK. The Rapid/Inferred is able to dimension cylindrical face in a single clic.
Good, but doesn't work on section views either.
Thanks.

Stephane

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[JohnRBaker]

Yes, selecting faces from a section view that NX is able to recognize as cylindrical, has always been a problem. There was no change one way or the other when we moved to NX 9.0.

As for non-section views, as MANox has already verified, again there is no basic difference in the capabilities or the interactive steps needed, between NX 9.0 and older versions of NX.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.