Out of memory error

[Acroloc]

At where I work, we are using the version of NX 6.0.2.8

I work in the Cam Dept. My co-worker and I are programming
molds daily. The problem we face is receiving the "out of
memory" error. Our IT department has built us both about 3 different computers this year to try to eliminate this problem. My computer has

AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core processor 5600+
2.91 GHz 2.00 GB RAM

My co-workers computer has

Intel Pentium Dual Cpu 2200
2.20 GHz 2.00 GB Ram

These new computers have decreased the number of times
we receive the error, compaired to our previous single core
computers w/4.00 GB of Ram. But both of us still get this error almost daily.

Can anyone suggest what we need to do/buy to eliminate the problem.

 

[joycejo]

Do you have the latest graphics drivers from GTAC ?



John Joyce
Tata Technologies
1675 Larimer St.
Denver, CO

http://www.myigetit.com

NX3,4,5,6 Solid Works, Pro/e, Solid Edge

 

[Acroloc]

Yes, We do have the latest graphic drivers from GTAC.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Why are you only configured with 2GB of RAM? You should have a minimum of 4GB with systems like that and even if you're only running 32-bit OS and 32-bit NX, you could still get the use of a full 3GB of RAM for NX if you set the 3GB OS option. Of course, if you're running 64-bit OS even if you're only running 32-bit NX, if you were to install 6GB of RAM, you could free up a full 4GB for NX.

After all, memory is cheap. Don't be penny wise but a pound foolish ;-)

John R. Baker, P.E.
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Product Design Solutions
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[NXMold]

If I correctly understand, the progression is:
-32 bit system "out of the box" (max allocable memory is 2gb)
-Add 4gb total physical memory (minimum)
-enable 3gb switch in windows
-switch to 64-bit windows (allows 4gb allocation to 32-bit apps)
-switch to 64-bit software (virtually unlimited memory allocation)


NX 5.0.3.2 / 6.0.1.5 MoldWizard

 

[JohnRBaker]

Yea, that about covers it.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[hudson888]

Add to that that you can increase your virtual memory allocation to at least that of your physical memory. Then setting the initial and maximum values to the full amount may improve your general performance slightly.

Best Regards

Hudson

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[CommIT]

I'm the IT dept fro Acroloc, since I was not seeing much hit on the RAM and was on the CPU we were testing by upping the CPU side of things. I am going to throw 4GB in now and see if that makes a difference.
re; 64bit OS being a benefit to a 32bit app. I had not heard about that if the 4GB testing does not show benefit that would be a next step.

keep your fingers crossed.

 

[JohnRBaker]

The benefit when running a 32-bit app on a 64-bit system is that if you have more than 4GB of memory, say something like 8GB, despite the fact that the 32-bit app still can't access any more than what 32-bit addressing will allow it to, it at least gets the FULL benefit of that 4GB of memory as the OS, on 64-bit systems, uses the memory address space which starts above the normal 32-bit limit. In other words, unlike on 32-bit systems, the applications do NOT have to COMPETE with the OS for memory when running 32-bit apps on a 64-bit system.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[CommIT]

thanks John,
have you had experience running XP64 or Vista 64 or both and if so what OS would your recommend?

 

[JohnRBaker]

Not me personally (I'm still running XP32 on my laptop), but from what I've recently heard, while people have successfully moved to Vista (both 32-bit and 64-bit), you may wish to wait and have a look at Windows7. From what I've heard, the beta testing that we have been conducting indicates that it's much better than what Vista was at this stage and that it's already shown that it will undoubtedly be much superior when it does reach full release status. Besides, we're told that it may provide some very distinct advantages for applications like NX when running on multi-core configurations.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[CommIT]

I have heard good things about 7 too, but was worried about support for drivers etc.. at this early date.

thanks,
Chuck

 

[JohnRBaker]

That's why it's still considered 'beta', but if it's as good as early indications have shown, I suspect that getting the application tools and accessories vendors to update their libraries and drivers will NOT be a problem.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[hudson888]

Yep Windows 7 seems to get the big tick from everyone commenting on it thus far. On past performance though final releases of Microsoft O/S have often gotten bogged down with the number of things that they tend to add by the time they reach production. Vista without all the security protocols probably would have been better accepted for example.

Best Regards

Hudson

www.jamb.com.au

Nil Desperandum illegitimi non carborundum

 

[jonasr75]

Hi all,

the UG does support the dual-processor architecture? My computer have 2 Xeon cpu's and 12 GB RAM, 64bit Vista and 64bit NX6.
"UGII_SMP_ENABLE" enviroment variable is 1 when the UG support the multi-processor mode, otherwise no. I heard, any UG command support the multi cpu mode, but more options do not support it. Maybe this list is accessable?
Can I tune my motherboard bios parameters or can I set any Vista parameters?

thanks,
Rudolf

 

[potrero]

@jonasr75, take a look at this very recent thread: thread561-254779

 

[markrief]

In CAM, the simplest thing you can do is turn off the display when generating operations. In the operation dialog go to Edit Display and check Supress Path Display. Generate, and then hit verify or replay if you want to see it.

Mark Rief
Product Manager
Siemens PLM

 

[jonasr75]

Hi

thanks potero. Maybe the efficiency of computing will become spectaculary in NX7...

I have another problem. Anytimes the UG was frozen, the task manager shown 0% cpu time, but the UG unable to give back the prompt and the "working process" window is not working. I have to kill the ugraf.exe with task manager.
My configuration see bellow. Maybe video card driver is not worked correctly?

thanks,
Rudolf

 

[jonasr75]

hi all,

anybody have any idea? Maybe try to find first the corrupt component, then export heal geometry and finally overwrite the old model to the fixed part... Why do not give back the UG the prompt? Sometimes the 'working progress' window is not work.

thanks,
Rudolf

 

[looslib]

There can be instances where NX is spinning off subprocesses to do calculations. that will cause UGRAF to appear to be not-responding.


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