Pathway to MIStructE - Institution of structural engineers (UK) 2

[AusLady]

Is there any possibility that the Institution of structural engineers (UK) will accept the "PhD in structural engineering" (Australia) without having a proper 3-4 year recognised "structural engineering degree (BSc)"? Do they even offer any points for the PhD at all? I have other construction related bachelors and masters degrees but I'm lacking a Bachelors degree in structural eng.
I have 20 year experience as a structural Engineer. Heard they are only taking the academic qualifications into account before the charted engineer examination (CM exam) not the work experience.

What are my options to get qualified for MIStructE? Ultimately my aim is to get the CEng credential.

 

[IDS]

I'm not up to date with their current requirements, but they have active local groups in Australia, so your best bet would be to contact your nearest local group.


Doug Jenkins
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[human909]

I would expect you would need to have completed a qualification that is recognised as a suitable qualification under the Washington Accord. [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Accord_(credentials)[/url]

There are plenty of 'engineers' in Australia who do not meet any of the requirements. In Australia engineer is not a protected term.

I have 20 year experience as a structural Engineer.

If you are registered or able to get registered as a structural Engineer in Australia then presumably you have completed a course that meets the mutual recognition requirements of the Washington Accord.

If you cannot get registered in Australia then it is unlikely that MIStructE will accept your qualifications either.


(I say this as an Australiana structural engineering who has recently completed one of the state based registration processes. For those who aren't Australian, there are ongoing changes happening across our states regarding the requirement of structural engineers to be registered within a state.)


A quick google seems to indicate that there are PhD course out there in Australia that do not require and are not accredited Washington Accord courses. If you have done such a course you might have an uphill battle to prove your suitability.

 

[AusLady]

@IDS
Thank you

 

[AusLady]

PhD course out there in Australia that do not require and are not accredited Washington Accord courses.

I thought once the country is registered under Washington accord, all the courses offered by the university automatically become Washington accord accredited. Are you sure they need to get seperate Washington accord accreditation for each course in Australian and UK universities?

I'm aware that there could be seperate "CEng" accredited courses etc but I always thought "Washington accord" accredited is always automatically offered to universities in registered countries.

 

[human909]

This is the full list of accredited programs in Australia:

https://www.engineersaustralia.org....07/ea-accredited-tertiary-programs-jun-23.pdf

Are you sure they need to get seperate Washington accord accreditation for each course in Australian and UK universities?

Yes. Otherwise any university or 4th rate institution could offer an engineering degree and call that suitable. The point of such international agreements is mutual recognition across borders. But the course itself still needs to be recognised as a suitable course.

As mentioned not all courses meet the requirements. And courses that do normally mention it as it is a normal requirement that you need have studied a course that is suitably recognised/accredited at meeting the requirements. Some organisations can make exceptions but they are aren't easy hurdles.

https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/membership

Am I eligible?
To be eligible for full membership you need to have completed an accredited or recognised engineering qualification, plus relevant work experience in the field.

https://study.unimelb.edu.au/find/c...of-civil-engineering/where-will-this-take-me/

"AN INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED QUALIFICATION
The Master of Civil Engineering is professionally recognised under EUR-ACE® (accrediting agency: ASIIN) and the Washington Accord (through Engineers Australia). This means you can work as an engineer in Australia, Europe, Hong Kong, Japan, US, and more."

https://www.monash.edu/engineering/future-students

Professional recognition
Monash Engineering degrees are accredited by various professional engineering bodies. Recognised by the Washington Accord, our graduates can work in any other signatory country, without the need to requalify.

All this begs the question how and where have you managed to work "20 year experience as a structural Engineer" without suitable qualifications? Are you an academic? Working in a less developed country? Or some other experience?