JSD1986
Structural
- May 2, 2012
- 25
I often have to design the piles in say a 4 pile cap. The Cap is subject to a lateral load, a bending moment and compression load. Pile are conventional bored pier/CFA pile.
Due to the moment applied to the cap and the compression force we end up with some piles in compression and some piles in tension. Due to the lateral load being applied we end up with an induced bending moment somewhere down the pile. At this stage I end up with piles that are subject to tension and bending moment, and as you might well know requires a substantial amount of reinforcement because the concrete is basicially doing nothing.
Here's what i'd somehow like to rationalise and hoping to get some constructive comments.
1) For the case above, if the piles in compression could take ALL the lateral load could we justify that the piles in tension are taking none of the lateral load and hence none of induced moment.
Example.
MY HYPOTHESIS
Pile cap with 4 x 600 dia piles. Shear Load on cap 400kN,(say 100kN per pile). say we get 3000kN/pile compression and 1500kN tension/pile.
Compression piles - If we do it my way we get 200kN shear per pile, (lets say moment arm of 1.2mtrs (2D). M = 240kn.m. Compression load is 3000kn. say we are working in ultimate I get something like 5N20 bars, 40mpa, 600 dia pile
Tension Piles - Going off my assumption we have no lateral load so therefore no induced moment. Tension load 1500kn tension - Reo something like 9N24.
So designing it like this we'd use 9N24 for all piles, 1.4% reo.
OTHER WAY
Tension piles subject to 1500kn tension and 100kn lateral >>> 100 x 1.2(moment arrm) = 120kn.m. . Based on this I get something like 8N32 bars needed, about 2% reo. (wont bother checking compression as I know this case will govern.)
The example above probably doesn't really show the extremes of what results we can get, but as a piling contractor the costs can be huge especially if there are multiple pile caps, large diameter and bigger loads.
Any thoughts?
Due to the moment applied to the cap and the compression force we end up with some piles in compression and some piles in tension. Due to the lateral load being applied we end up with an induced bending moment somewhere down the pile. At this stage I end up with piles that are subject to tension and bending moment, and as you might well know requires a substantial amount of reinforcement because the concrete is basicially doing nothing.
Here's what i'd somehow like to rationalise and hoping to get some constructive comments.
1) For the case above, if the piles in compression could take ALL the lateral load could we justify that the piles in tension are taking none of the lateral load and hence none of induced moment.
Example.
MY HYPOTHESIS
Pile cap with 4 x 600 dia piles. Shear Load on cap 400kN,(say 100kN per pile). say we get 3000kN/pile compression and 1500kN tension/pile.
Compression piles - If we do it my way we get 200kN shear per pile, (lets say moment arm of 1.2mtrs (2D). M = 240kn.m. Compression load is 3000kn. say we are working in ultimate I get something like 5N20 bars, 40mpa, 600 dia pile
Tension Piles - Going off my assumption we have no lateral load so therefore no induced moment. Tension load 1500kn tension - Reo something like 9N24.
So designing it like this we'd use 9N24 for all piles, 1.4% reo.
OTHER WAY
Tension piles subject to 1500kn tension and 100kn lateral >>> 100 x 1.2(moment arrm) = 120kn.m. . Based on this I get something like 8N32 bars needed, about 2% reo. (wont bother checking compression as I know this case will govern.)
The example above probably doesn't really show the extremes of what results we can get, but as a piling contractor the costs can be huge especially if there are multiple pile caps, large diameter and bigger loads.
Any thoughts?