Pilot seat/cockpit dimensions.

[RoarkS]

Anyone have some good cockpit dims they are willing to share?

Maybe a copy of MS33574 that has the notes?

 

[WKTaylor]

RS...

Assist & Every spec have the MS33574 'notes' section chopped-in-half. DANG. I submitted a request to ASSIST to re-scan the spec due to this problem.

See attached [my old copy].

https://files.engineering.com/getfi...imensions~Stick_Controled_Fixed_Wing_Acft.pdf

NOTE. There are [4] standard cockpit dimensions, MS33573-thru-76, thus...

MS33573 [CX] DIMENSIONS, CLEARANCE, COCKPIT FIXED WING AIRCRAFT
MS33574 [CX] DIMENSIONS, BASIC, COCKPIT, STICK-CONTROLLED, FIXED WING AIRCRAFT
MS33575 [CX] DIMENSIONS, BASIC, COCKPIT, HELICOPTER [MIL-STD-1333]
MS33576 [CX] DIMENSIONS, BASIC, COCKPIT, WHEEL CONTROLLED, FIXED WING AIRCRAFT

There are also other documents with relevant cockpit dimensions for MIL aircraft that I am familiar with.

Regards, Wil Taylor

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[RoarkS]

Thanks!

2 seat tandem stick controlled fixed wing. Trying to be as small as possible and still comfortable.

 

[Sparweb]

MIL-STD-203 Aircrew Station Controls
MIL-STD-850 Aircrew Vision
MIL-STD-1333 Aircraft station geometry
MIL-STD-1776 AIRCREW STATION AND PASSENGER ACCOMMODATIONS (S/S BY JSSG-2010) {locked in ASSIST}
MIL-STD-1472 Human Engineering
DOD-HDBK-743 Anthropometry of US Military Personnel

http://www.sparweb.ca

 

[WKTaylor]

RS... Interesting project!

Be cautious... especially if NOT MIL... the requirement for tandem MIL cockpits requires the GIB be elevated significantly, so they could see-forward over the GIF... resulting in a huge cross-section height... many complications.

BTW... several MIL Acft cockpit arrangements are also [somewhere] in the AFSC Design Handbooks [DHs].

NOTE.

In 1980s I [me] designed a single-seat [opt 2-seat] light attack jet... but did not fully adopt the MIL cockpit depth and visibility requirements/constraints... since that would have boosted the cross-section height way-too-much for a compact/LW attack jet. In today's deign world, the T-38 arrangement is completely unacceptable... as evidenced by the cockpit arrangement for the 'MIL-spec' T-7A Red Hawk.

The back seat 'space' was occupied by (a) light gun system... firing below belly, on centerline W/ ammo canister in the cockpit isolated from the pilot; or (b) aft cockpit for an instructor/observer [GIF/GIB in light-weight ejection seats]. The aft cockpit was a pain to get into W/O a side-opening canopy... and I was forced to go-to thru-canopy ejection. Aft cockpit area was very close to the Acft CG so that helped W/ W&B. Arrangement was very tight/compact.

Regards, Wil Taylor

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o We believe to be true what we prefer to be true. [Unknown]
o For those who believe, no proof is required; for those who cannot believe, no proof is possible. [variation,Stuart Chase]
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