Potential Disaster in the Making 10

[phamENG]

Cumbre Vieja, a volcano on La Palma in the Canaries, just erupted a couple of hours ago. National Geographic did an episode on it as part of a 'Disaster Earth' series a few years ago. Essentially, there's evidence of a massive landslide on the island a few hundred millennia ago, the likes of which would have formed a tsunami large enough to hit the east coast of the US. A recent earthquake seems to have restarted the process and formed a large fissure along the island.

Here's to hoping it doesn't move any more....

 

[RedSnake]

1503-44 How are things looking right now at Cumbre Vieja?
What is the last new, progress?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

Trying to dig out the cemetery, among other things. Hope they don't dig toooo deep.
They also bought a thousand prefab houses made container style for temporary accommodations.
All the provinces governors were there last week for their annual spring meeting. All voiced support to continue with reconstruction efforts. They started ferry service to the farms to the south. Other than that I have not heard much. Its snowed at the high point, El Roque de Las Muchachos, twice now. Usually they don't get any snow there. Tourists are back. We're the hottest tourist destination in Europe again. La Palma is pretty nice really. I want to go back. Probably soon, but we may have to go to Madrid first. New nephew there.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher ... and to Boeing.

 

[RedSnake]

Only been to Playa de Ingles, Gran Canaria and Teneriffa, Puerto de la Cruz.
I realized my passport expirees on May 22nd and the first avalibul time here for a new one is in August.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

You need a passport to come here? I thought Sweden was inside.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher ... and to Boeing.

 

[RedSnake]

Hmm well I really shouldn't need one, I do have a European ID card, that should be enough, but that also passes May 22. :-(
Not sure my driverslicens is good enough everywhere as ID, even though it is probably one of the most "secure ID cards" there is when it comes to counterfeiting.
When traveling by flight it sometimes happens that you need to show your passport.
I think it have to do with how the airports are arranged, if there is flights inside EU and out of EU from the same "security" area you need to provide a passport with you tickets, to pass the security control and sometimes the gate. I am not sure if EU ID is enough, tried it ones in Helsinki it is super long ago but they didn't accept it.
If it is a direct flight from here I think the EU ID or driverslicens might be enough, but we don't have many.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

In most cases you can choose from the "EU" or "Other" passport control lines. Not sure how the South airport is set up. The North Airport is mostly domestic Spanish flights. There are direct flights from somewhere up there (Norway?) to La Palma too, I think a Shengen flight is just a walk through. Nobody checks arrival on domestic Spanish flights. When there are EU & Others, I go through EU and if asked, I just show my residence card. That even worked at Heathrow ... before Brexit. Best to check with your airline.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher ... and to Boeing.

 

[RedSnake]

Yes that is the problem, I have used my EU ID first and thinking back it works most of the time but it always feel like I need the passport as backup.
But since I have gotten both at the same time they both expirees at the same time it is still a dilemma.
When going to London even when they where a part of EU, I defiantly needed the passport.
In Stockholm Arlanda there is just one area for international flights, so I guess they wont to make sure you have your passport if you are going somewhere outside EU, it is the airlines I think they don't want the hassel they get if it turns out you haven't got a passport an the country wont let you in when you arrive, at least they check it at the gate, and in Arlanda it is just one way into the international flights area.
When you are on the flight and coming to where you are going, no one cares.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

Right. If you are refused entry, the airline has to return you to your point of departure for free.

If there is a transient terminal, nobody checks anything until you try to leave it.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher ... and to Boeing.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Your getting confused between Shenzhen area and rest of the EU.

In theory inside Shenzhen then ID card only will do. But in reality air transport it might not due local policy to get on a flight.

UK Norway Ireland and a couple of others were not in it pre Brexit and you needed passports anyway. But saying that national Id cards which carried the passport code data could be used. But you need a full passport for the UK now and it gets stamped apparently.

We have had transfer pax been refused onto the next flight out in the baltics without passport due to immigration officials. The it got a bit silly because they said they couldn't get on any other flight either.

Some rather rude words were said along the lines of I am off to get a bus. But it's not the airlines that control this immigration stuff. I get all sorts of crap every time I go none Shenzhen because I have UK passport and residence card.

 

[LittleInch]

It's Schengen....

In theory ask you need is ID Card to travel within the zone, But airlines have a sense of humour failure sometimes.

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Sorry was on the phone without my reading glasses.

Its not the airlines its the immigration local airport rules which are variable.

The immigration agents most places seem to be able to make it up as the go along. And there is nothing the crew can do to persuade them that they are talking nonsense. EU ID rules i am told are the minimum standard and not a right.

 

[RedSnake]

I am not sure that's the case all over, mainly because I have never needed to show the passport or EU ID on arrival on any airport or to get out off it inside EU except in UK.
But to get inside the security area at Arlanda for out of country travel they check you tickets and passport or EU ID I am quite sure they wouldn't let you pass through if you where going outside the EU if you can't provide a proper passport.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

its not getting off that's usually the issue its getting on the flight that the problems occur.

Although sometimes they do spot paperwork checks on the airbridge as they get off. Each country is different and it sometimes changes day to day

 

[RedSnake]

Still no times for new passports until August here, they sade they where going to change the system so that you need to provide your name to get a time for a new passport, but it doesn't help much right now.
They have realized that people book times and then sells them.
The old system with drop in was much better can't pre book times to sell later that way or they should at least have a combination.
There is still times in June, July if I take a 100 km trip.. or maybe take a flight to Stockholm.


“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein