"You're trying to move a fixed component" ??? 4

[stephlouv]

NX9.0.1.3

Wasted time trying to figure out what does prevent NX of moving a sub-assembly.
Watch de video below.

1 - adding a new sub-assembly
so, there are no assembly constraints ATT ALL involving it.

2 - try to move it with "handles"
"You're trying to move a fixed component" ???

3 - maybe it's this "fixed" sub-constraint does lock the movement.
So delete this sub "fixed" and try to move it again.
Same message : "You're trying to move a fixed component" ???

Already read these threads (no solutions in them)

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=317901

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=313447

Out of ideas, if anyone have the solution, we'll be very happy !

Thank you

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[JohnRBaker]

Then you should be able to move it as you wish. That being said, your answer sounds like it might show up there later. Is that true?

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[stephlouv]

NO, it does not move.
"You are trying to move a fixed component.
bla bla bla ...."
It doesn't show up in the Constraint Navigator until ..... i'am adding one Constraint, of course.

-------------------from above, with some more details------------------------------

I always select the full sub-component.
I always be carefull during selection.
By picking it from the assembly navigator or with the 'Select from list".
I even try your trick John, 'Within Work Part Only'
This sub-assembly if free from any assembly constraint

In any case, the "move component" (for any method ; dynamic, pt-2-pt etc ....) display the pop-up :
"You are trying to move a fixed component.
Are you sure you want to move it?"

Even if I select "yes", nothing is moving.

Adding true "Assembly constraints" is placing it.
But why can't I move it ?

I can't as long as the sub-assembly contain a "Fixed" constraint.
And the "Component pattern" feature is silently applying one on each instance.
Deleting this pattern and then I can "drag" move it :

http://youtu.be/1rmOaBwlqIw

If the repetition is coming from an earlier version of NX, when it was named "Component Array", then we can "move" this component.

WHY DOES NX TAKE IN ACCOUNT THE SUB ASSEMBLY CONSTRAINTS ?


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[carlharr]

Stephlouv,

As a workaround, what happens if you "suppress" (un-tick) the component pattern in sub-assembly.

Are you then able to move the sub? And then switch the component pattern back on afterwards?



John, in the videos, Steph is adding this sub to the assembly on absolutes, and nothing else, that's all.

Then he's unable to move it as you can see in the video.

It looks broken to me.

http://www.jcb.com

NX 8.5 with TC 8.3

 

[stephlouv]

I conduct some more tests.
It's clear to me, the "Pattern component" is the root cause of the problem.
Once I use it inside a sub-assembly, the "move component" stops working on it from upper levels.

This does not happen with a previous "Component Array" from NX8

http://youtu.be/6xVo_0xbALY

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[stephlouv]

Carl, thanks for watching.

Nope, suppressing the Array does not solve the issue.

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[carlharr]

I think it might be one for GTAC stephlouv

http://www.jcb.com

NX 8.5 with TC 8.3

 

[cowski]

NX9.0.1.3

Before contacting GTAC, you should install the latest MR and re-test.

www.nxjournaling.com

 

[stephlouv]

I can't install this MR.
I'am an advanced modeler / trainer here, not the IT guy in charge of NX installations.

Anyway, while setup some customer default for on a new machine, I've found this.
See attached screenshot.
It's exactly linked to my problem.
Didn't try it yet but I think here is the solution.

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[stephlouv]

THIS IS IT !!!!

Customer Defaults / Assemblies / Positioning
Interface tab
Move component
Change the scope from "Anywhere in Assembly" for "Work Part Only"

Asked the NX site engineer to set this as site default !

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[carlharr]

Good work figuring that one out!

http://www.jcb.com

NX 8.5 with TC 8.3

 

[stephlouv]

Can I apply for a job at GTAC with this one ? .... ;-)

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