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Slide Rules. Collecting and discussing. 13

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Skogsgurra

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Mar 31, 2003
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Hello all,

You are invited to share views and thoughts about slide rules. I have been collecting these devices on a rather small scale and had fifteen of them when my collection took a quantum jump. I was visiting the local book store to buy a book on flowers (yes, flowers) when I happened to ask the store-keeper if he perhaps had any slide rules. He gave me a puzzled look and then said "Yes, I found a box with some forty old slide rules yesterday. I haven't decided what to do with them yet".

Need I say that I saved them from the scrapheap? I got a substantial addition to my collection at a price that we both were very pleased with. He because he got anything at all and I because I paid about a tenth of what I had expected to pay.

I have mostly European and Japanese slide rules. Faber-Castell, Aristo, Sun-Hemmi and some less known makes like Graphoplex (French), Diwa (Danish), Royal Slide Rule (British) and Eco Bra (can't make out from where it comes).

There is a certain standardisation among slide rules. There are the scale systems; Mannheim, Rietz, Darmstadt, Electro, Disponent and some other special systems. There is one that intrigues me. It is called Tachymeter and seems to have been used by surveyors. And there are probably many more that I haven't discovered yet.

The slide rules from the BHP era look very much the same except for the introduction of the Duplex slide rules in the late fifties/early sixties. That was also when some colour was added - except for the "reversed" scales (increasing from right to left instead of from left to right) which seems to have been coloured red for a very long time.

It was only AHP that design people started to make the slide rules more and more attractive. Mild colour coding, more scales and cursor lines, extra functions, friction areas to ease handling, table stands and more was added to keep a market that everyone probably already knew was lost. The last slide rules produced were sometimes monsters - or beauties - depending on your personal preferences. I, myself, think that the Faber-Castell 2/83 N (the N is important here) is a beauty. It is the longest 1 foot SR produced, I think. It has 30 scales and it even smells good!

Another favourite is the little FC 67/38b 400 grad Tachymeter. It is a favourite mostly because it is so enigmatic. What are sin.cos and cos2 scales used for? They are probably there for some very valid reason - as is the 1-cos2 scale. Anyone that has information about these scales?

Collecting slide rules appears to be the retired engineer's perfect hobby. We know a lot, but not all, about the objects. We can appreciate the good workmanship, the precision, the artistery and the ingenuity that went into their design and production. And we know how to use them!

There are a few other reasons that make them ideal collector's objects: They are no more produced. They are still available - although in limited quantity. They are not bulky - can be carried with you when meeting like-minded. There will probably never be a fake slide rule - it takes a very complex production facility to make slide rules and the last factory was closed in 1975.

It is a little like collecting Fabergé eggs - only so much cheaper and more interesting.

Comments and answers invited! Do you collect slide rules? Do you have specific knowledge about any special slide rule? What makes do you know about? How do you find them?

BHP = Before HP.

Gunnar Englund
 
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Skog--

That sounds like the animal...

The sliding rectangular part allows you to interface a wind vector with your flight path to determine ground speed and correction angles.

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What!? I can't find any batteries!

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I had an idiot eng mgr who criticized me for using my slide rule. This was several years into availability of small personal computers. I liked the feature of repeated calculations with a preset factor on the slide rule without moving anything but the cursor.
 
I had a slide rule back in about 1973. Never did learn how to use it. Thank goodness that pocket calculators came on the market about the same time that I entered university. But I think I had to pay about $600. for my first calculator!!
 
Cage,
When the first $600 compact computers came out, we shared it in the eng dept. It was the HP with reverse polish notation; very cumbersome.
 
I was "willed" a couple of circular rules. One is a Sony wheel used to calculated flow through orifice meters. The other circular rule performs weymouth pressure drop and panhandle pressure drop.

In college, one of the guys had this monster 12" diameter rule, That equal to a 3 foot long rule, 4 or 5 decimal places near 1.
 
Is there any one have surplus sliderule nd would like to give away? I would like to receive or purchase it from you at a resonable price. Do you have any old HP calculator that is not working at all?

Thanks.

 
Hello PE,

I have several slide rules in duplicate, triplicate and even septuplicate (if there is such a word).

I am holding on to them passionately, but someone who expresses a need for one like you do should contact me. I have a distinct feeling that price will not be an issue...

You may have to do some detective work (easy) if you want to contact me. Please put SLIDE RULE in the subject line. Norton throws most other mails away.

Gunnar Englund
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I nearly killed a guy during a commercial pilot written exam. Everybody had the classic E6B circular slide rule; this guy brought along a small noisy mechanical calculator: Ratita-ratita-ratita!
 
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Hello,
Thanks for the interesting discussion on slide rules. I only had the chance to use one (circular) in a physics class. This was in 1976, so calculators were coming around. I have to see if that is still at my mom's house.

I did find a Pickett Model 1000 at work and based on some links from this discussion have found some info on it and am in the process of teaching myself how to use it. I hadn't realized how much I had forgotten in terms of math on a guesstimate of magnitude the answer is (ie where is that decimal point?) It is fun!

One question, is apparently some of these were made in magnesium and later changed to aluminum. How can one tell the difference?

it is a bit hard to slide so I think I will try putting vaseline on the slide based on SlideRuleEra's posting.
 
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From that article: "They're home gyms for the brain."

Yes, right. And also very nice objects in general. I met a collector in Paris a few weeks ago. He had some really (I mean REALLY) nice things in his brief-case, like a Charpentier in original case, an Otis King, a waist-pocket clock/slide rule (five or six known world-wide) and a Bavarian circular with automatic decimal point locator. We remained sitting in that Bistro "manipulating" till they closed. And then continued in the hotel lobby.

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Gunnar,
do have any pictures or links on the rare waist-pocket clock/slide rule?
Must have been a great time!
 
Yes, it was! And, yes. I did take some pictures.

First the combined clock/slide rule. Please note that Sigismond's is as near mint as you can get while the one shown in the Oughtred Society paper has some stain on the scales.

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Sigismond also has a very fine Charpentier - in original case!

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And, with original "Mode d'emploi"!!!

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