Guastavino
Structural
- Jan 29, 2014
- 381
Hi All,
2012 IBC, AISC 360-10, AWS d1.1-10 are the relevant codes for this.
So, I do a lot of small industrial work such as small platforms inside plant and rooftop unit frames. It's been my practice to not require AWS certified welders (I have a note on my drawings about following AWS but I don't request all of it to be submitted to me) for little jobs. The welders are typically pipe welders who, in my opinion, are better than your average "structural" steel welder. I am used to the 2009 IBC, but am now getting into the 2012 IBC in a particular jurisdiction. I don't want to get into trouble by not requiring/checking on things like this, but to me it's silly for small projects. I'm thinking, if the building official asks before construction, sure, but if not, move on with life.
1. What are you all doing? (I get requiring it for new buildings and big projects, but I'm curious for small work inside existing buildings)
2. Is there a specific requirement in AWS d1.1 (I don't own it because to me it's a fabricators document) that requires this? If so, what do you do about small jobs?
If I have to tell my client that he has to qualify his own people or go hire some AWS certified person for a small project I think it's over the top. I know "protect" the public, etc., but practically speaking, I'll take a pipe welder over a "structural" guy every day.
Thoughts? I expect the full spectrum of responses here.
Lastly, and color me cynical, I fully believe that all the documentation requirements of the codes is a big CYA for the code people. I bet I could find 100 code violations on every project that ever goes out if you give me enough time. I make sure the big stuff is all taken care of and stuff like this I don't sweat. But, I also don't want to be on an island. I want to follow the standard degree of care, but within reason. To me, the intent of this documentation is for really big projects where things can get out of hand. In those situations I agree with it.
2012 IBC, AISC 360-10, AWS d1.1-10 are the relevant codes for this.
So, I do a lot of small industrial work such as small platforms inside plant and rooftop unit frames. It's been my practice to not require AWS certified welders (I have a note on my drawings about following AWS but I don't request all of it to be submitted to me) for little jobs. The welders are typically pipe welders who, in my opinion, are better than your average "structural" steel welder. I am used to the 2009 IBC, but am now getting into the 2012 IBC in a particular jurisdiction. I don't want to get into trouble by not requiring/checking on things like this, but to me it's silly for small projects. I'm thinking, if the building official asks before construction, sure, but if not, move on with life.
1. What are you all doing? (I get requiring it for new buildings and big projects, but I'm curious for small work inside existing buildings)
2. Is there a specific requirement in AWS d1.1 (I don't own it because to me it's a fabricators document) that requires this? If so, what do you do about small jobs?
If I have to tell my client that he has to qualify his own people or go hire some AWS certified person for a small project I think it's over the top. I know "protect" the public, etc., but practically speaking, I'll take a pipe welder over a "structural" guy every day.
Thoughts? I expect the full spectrum of responses here.
Lastly, and color me cynical, I fully believe that all the documentation requirements of the codes is a big CYA for the code people. I bet I could find 100 code violations on every project that ever goes out if you give me enough time. I make sure the big stuff is all taken care of and stuff like this I don't sweat. But, I also don't want to be on an island. I want to follow the standard degree of care, but within reason. To me, the intent of this documentation is for really big projects where things can get out of hand. In those situations I agree with it.
