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Awab95

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Jan 19, 2020
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Hi guys,I want to know what is the best time to do master degree in structure; before SE exam or after, also what is the best time to do MBA?

Edit: is the master degree worth it if I did SE exam,and is the MBA worth it?
 
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Should I drop out, so leave you alone to enjoy the uniqueness :) Most of the prestigious academies have a leaning towards practicality though.
 
Yup... and I think it's a mistake...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
kissymoose said:
I'm more wanting a combination of mathcad/smath and excel.

Have you heard of Blockpad? It's a sort of combination of Mathcad and Excel.
 

Looks good... I've posted a query on their site asking if the program will reference an excel sheet without importing it so that you can access information on the excel sheet... one of the things sorely missing from SMath. Also need to know the cost...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 

Not to me... universities have been around for 1000 years... community colleges have been around for 50... it appears that the quality of education starting from grade school is diminishing... maybe universities, too. More stuff being done and newer information... but, I'm not sure the quality of reasoning has improved... may have peaked in the 60s.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
dik said:
Also need to know the cost...
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on pricing. Lifetime license is 1700. Or, they have a subscription offering for 18.00 per month and also have a customizable subscription offering.

I had not heard of it but am very curious to check it out now. Thanks for the share EJ_H
 
dik,

Civil engineering is more tan 1000 years old, the great wonders/artistic works were create by peoples know how with handy hands and skill... If todays university are all theoretical based, we might still stay in the last century waiting for proofs :)
 
I was thinking universities... where the wealthy would hire 'teachers' and import them for other wealthy neighbours to soak up the knowledge. I'm not sure how long civil engineers as opposed to military engineers have been around... many were just very trained tradesmen...

From one site:
"Around 2550 BC, Imhotep, the first documented engineer, built a famous stepped pyramid for King Djoser located at Saqqara Necropolis. With simple tools and mathematics he created a monument that stands to this day. His greatest contribution to engineering was his discovery of the art of building with shaped stones. Those who followed him carried engineering to remarkable heights using skill and imagination."

and more...

In the 18th century, the term civil engineering was coined to incorporate all things civilian as opposed to military engineering. ... In 1818, world's first engineering society, the Institution of Civil Engineers was founded in London


Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
Those who followed him carried engineering to remarkable heights using skill and imagination.

That balance is very important. We are spoiled for so many tools, machines, and other handy persons so conveniently around, the "skill" part of us has deteriorating for centuries, and getting worse.
 
YOu should see some of the early Scottish bicker bowls with intricate interlacing of the adjacent 'staves' or whatever they are called... Finewoodworking had a couple examples of this work in one of their magazines about 30 years back... a lost skill.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
I will share my experience. So got my undergrade BS degree and then I practiced structural engineering and got my PE License. I knew I wanted to start my own business but I also knew there were things I wanted to learn better so I went back to school and got my masters. So I had exactly four years of engineering practice when I went back to school. The benefits of waiting were huge.

When I went back later to get my masters I was more mature, knew what I was there to get, and also knew a lot better questions to ask. I also didn't sweat the stuff I knew wasn't going use later on.
I got a lot more out of school going back later. When I was getting my undergrad degree I had never even read a set of blueprints. I thinking having worked for a few years really helped me get more out of my education.

I know this won't be for everyone but for me it worked out great. I do think getting a masters is useful as well if you are performing design work. Especially now because the average undergraduate degree in engineering is so watered down. You don't actually start engineering design coures till your forth or fifth year in practicality. When I got my masters in structural engineer I probably got 4x the amount of course work in my field than I did in undergrad.



John Southard, M.S., P.E.
 
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