cliff234
Structural
- Aug 28, 2003
- 393
I am design a deep beam per ACI 318-08, Appendix “A”, and I have a question. I searched through the archives of this forum but did not see discussion of the question that I have. Attached is an illustration showing a beam configuration similar to the actual beam that I am designing. The beam has a span/depth ratio greater than 4, but it is still classified as a deep beam because there is a significant concentrated load located closer than twice the beam depth to one of the supports.
My question is this, how do I compute the strut force? Is the strut force calculated based only on the 1,143k concentrated load, or is the strut force calculated based on the 2,000k reaction? If the concentrated load did not exist, then the beam would not have to be designed using a strut-and-tie (because L/d>4). But because of the concentrated load, I need to look at a strut-and-tie model. Is it reasonable to assume that the strut forms solely due to the concentrated load and I can compute the strut force based only on that 1,143k load? The difference is significant – a strut force of 1,414k versus 2,828k. A 2,828k strut force will require significantly more tie steel. The difference primarily affects the quantity of tie steel and anchorage of that tie steel in the nodal zone. I will design the bottom bars in the beam for a moment due to the uniform load plus a tie force due to the concentrated load. I will make sure that the beam has enough shear strength support the 2,000k reaction. I will provide headed anchors on the ends of the bottom (tie) bars, but would only need to consider development of those bars within the nodal zone to resist a tie force resulting from the strut force due to the 1,000k concentrated load.
Carrying this logic further, what if the concentrated load was only 100k (versus 1,000k)? Would I have to design the strut for a force of 141k or 141k + 1,414k = 1,555k? It seems odd that a relatively small concentrated load would suddenly require me to calculate a big strut force – with most of that force coming from a uniform load that would otherwise not be creating a strut.
Again - I am not short-changing design of the beam for shear strength, nor am I short-changing flexural strength. What I am questioning is the need to consider the uniform load increasing the strut force, since that uniform load, where it the only load on the beam, would otherwise not create a strut. The consequence of the increased strut force is a significantly greater quantity of tie steel.
Thanks!
My question is this, how do I compute the strut force? Is the strut force calculated based only on the 1,143k concentrated load, or is the strut force calculated based on the 2,000k reaction? If the concentrated load did not exist, then the beam would not have to be designed using a strut-and-tie (because L/d>4). But because of the concentrated load, I need to look at a strut-and-tie model. Is it reasonable to assume that the strut forms solely due to the concentrated load and I can compute the strut force based only on that 1,143k load? The difference is significant – a strut force of 1,414k versus 2,828k. A 2,828k strut force will require significantly more tie steel. The difference primarily affects the quantity of tie steel and anchorage of that tie steel in the nodal zone. I will design the bottom bars in the beam for a moment due to the uniform load plus a tie force due to the concentrated load. I will make sure that the beam has enough shear strength support the 2,000k reaction. I will provide headed anchors on the ends of the bottom (tie) bars, but would only need to consider development of those bars within the nodal zone to resist a tie force resulting from the strut force due to the 1,000k concentrated load.
Carrying this logic further, what if the concentrated load was only 100k (versus 1,000k)? Would I have to design the strut for a force of 141k or 141k + 1,414k = 1,555k? It seems odd that a relatively small concentrated load would suddenly require me to calculate a big strut force – with most of that force coming from a uniform load that would otherwise not be creating a strut.
Again - I am not short-changing design of the beam for shear strength, nor am I short-changing flexural strength. What I am questioning is the need to consider the uniform load increasing the strut force, since that uniform load, where it the only load on the beam, would otherwise not create a strut. The consequence of the increased strut force is a significantly greater quantity of tie steel.
Thanks!