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Blackstar123

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May 5, 2013
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Is This real? Am I the only one who is having a hard time believing my eyes. There seem to be at least a total of 5 cantilever floors for office use may be? I can't seem to find the name of this building or any other relevant information. It showed up in google search while I was searching another topic.

I am puzzling over this building for the better part of the day. Why is the cantilever end not deflected up to, I don't know, a meter yet? Does this building have a more stiffer load path than that of exterior, hidden somewhere inside? If anyone else can make sense of this structure, kindly explain it to me.
 
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I believe this has been debunked. Saw it on Linkedin a while ago...

 
What puzzles me is why would you expect a cantilever's end to deflect upwards?

Reality used to affect the way we thought. Now we somehow believe that what we think affects reality.
 
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And here I fritter away my day for nothing.. [flush]

Thanks everyone for preventing me from wasting more brain cells on it..

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What puzzles me is why would you expect a cantilever's end to deflect upwards?
Did I say upwards?
 
"Why is the cantilever not deflected to up ..."

OK. You could have left out the
"I don't know ..."
And I would have left it alone. Unnecessary words tend to confuse the meaning of things. (for me)
But I'm apparently not as confused as yourself :)

Reality used to affect the way we thought. Now we somehow believe that what we think affects reality.
 

should that be 'up, too'? a slow morning...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?
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Fourteen said:
But I'm apparently not as confused as yourself :)
Hahaha.. After this post, I deserve that..

God.. I feel ignorant everytime someone here answered my dopey questions..

 
All in good fun. And some good art.

Reality used to affect the way we thought. Now we somehow believe that what we think affects reality.
 
Well, it's not as though this design would have been tooooo far removed from the CCTV building in China which is non-fiction. Truss the snot out of it and combine that with an unlimited foundation budget and we could make a go of it. Maybe some post-tensioning to get deflections in line.

I don't know whether to be annoyed by this kind of thing or to celebrate it. On the one hand, who wants architects running around creating the impression that infeasible things have already been done? On the other hand, maybe it would be fun to get asked to do something like this with somebody with very deep pockets.

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I think the large overhang of the fictional building would be a source of vomit inducing vertical oscillation - which is the design goal often sought for but rarely reached by architects. The CCTV building looks stiff enough that the usual side-to-side oscillations would be under control.
 
Some good challenges and a lot of headaches.

Reality used to affect the way we thought. Now we somehow believe that what we think affects reality.
 
Working on a unique and individual structure is the dream of every structural engineer.
That being said, the fictional building design does seem to defy fundamental of structural engineering.
 
I would estimate the center of mass/center of gravity (CoM) of that building (barely) within the footprint of the lower part (ground floor), so I wouldn't say that it defies the fundamental laws of physics.
The cantilever is basically a box section with minimal reinforcements, whereas the left side would be one monumental moment connection, weighing at least as much, if not double, as the cantilevered part. This would shift the CoM significantly to the left.
I do agree that it would be challenging (to say the least) to start on something like that.
 
defy fundamental of structural engineering
What I meant by above is, unless there's more to the stiffness of the structure than meets the eye, there will most definitely be some sort of visible deflection at the free end. Which doesn't seem to be the case with the given building.

I would add,
whereas the left side would be one monumental moment, shear and axial Tension/Compression connection

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I would think that if you wanted to do something like this, rather than trying to rely on the exterior frame, you would create a deep beam whose flanges are the top and bottom floor slabs (that are much thicker than typical) and whose webs are from a mostly solid center corridor. And then maybe the exterior frame could just help brace the tips of the flanges. The way the geometry works out for this one, that would mean there would be a decent amount of scabbed-on structure in the diagonal part with some fake windows.
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KootK,

If your client or boss wants something to look cool, you tell them what it will cost. Maybe they are good for it!

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