Use of EIT/EI/IE designations

[MRM]

Happy superbowl weekend all:

I've been searching, but finding little on this...does anyone know of a list showing which states recognize the use of the EIT/EI/IE designations? I believe some do and some do not.

The question came up today as we were discussing some licensing issues, and I really couldn't say which states allowed it and which do. When I was an EIT, I just simply left it off (Michigan) for all the reasons given so many times before by so many.

And do I dare say "Go Seahawks!"? Moving to Washington has been nice because I have a legitimate reason not to allow the Detroit Lions to ruin my Sundays during football season anymore. ...then again, deep down I'll probably always be a fan of theirs. It's sort of a curse.

Thanks so much!

 

[JAE]

I think most state engineering boards in the USA deal mostly (if not only) with the PE/SE designations and don't usually have much to say about the EIT/EI terms.



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[MRM]

Thanks, JAE. That's fairly consistent with what I was finding on the subject...not much of anything at all. So that's probably right that no one (almost ) thinks about this...

I just wonder because I'm hearing from a few sources here and there that some states do not recognize it as a designation, but it's getting to me because I can't find those states (in the US anyway). Wiki says that NCEES recognizes the EIT as an actual designation, but I don't exactly see that same thing mentioned on the actual NCEES website (I don't think I did anyway...).

BigH, what does India say about the EIT/EI designation? Or is it even considered a real designation (as opposed to just an intermediate step in getting to the PE as some understand throughout the US)? Maybe it's other countries throughout the world that do not recognize the EIT/EI as being a designation.

All in all, this is probably the least of my worries-just really curious about things that don't matter that much lately, I guess!

 

[JAE]

Heh, I guess some states also do not recognize the designation "[red]A[/red]lmighty [red]I[/red]ntelligent [red]A[/red]rtist" but I know some architects that assume that title often.



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[BigH]

India, as far as I know, knew does not have P.Eng. classes so that it is a non-issue; same in Indonesia although they supposedly have a Professional society. Malaysia, where I am now, does have a P.E. licensing . . . I just became an associate member of the Institute of Engineers Malaysia . . . they give some really good (and relatively inexpensive) short courses and lectures that are worthy of the PDH.

 

[MRM]

Thanks for the info, BigH. I should do some more investigation of other countries and their professional licensure policies. I could stand to get a little more global in my thinking...

JAE-thanks for the laugh today!! I've actually never heard that particular explanation for AIA folks!

One time a good friend of mine (a female friend, in this case) remarked to me what she thought a "PhD" may stand for, causing me to blush...before that, I always thought it was just "Pretty Huge Debt" (which, of course, is accurate...)

 

[SlideRuleEra]

MRM - I did find some guidance on use of the EIT title... according to this website its ok:

http://www.engineerintrainingexam.c...se-once-i-pass-the-engineer-in-training-exam/

http://www.engineerintrainingexam.c...e-on-things-like-my-business-card-and-emails/

Amazing timing on your asking this question, it brings back memories. Forty-five years ago today, Saturday, January 31, 1970, I graduated from college, was commissioned an Air Force Second Lieutenant, and was a brand new EIT (we could take the exam in our last semester... using a slide rule, of course).

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[JAE]

B.S. Bull S*&t
M.S. More S*&t
Ph.D. Piled Higher and Deeper

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[Ron]

MRM...agree with JAE's comments. Be careful with the use of the title "Engineer" as some states gets really picky even if the person is an EI/EIT. When I was in the corporate world (aside...thankful every day I'm no longer there!!), we stopped using certain terms that implied that an EI was an engineer, a project engineer or similar. Those were reserved for PE's.

 

[Ron]

Also...SRE....I'm at 38 years with the same. Was already a reservist when I graduated...in fact, under my robe I was wearing fatigues! Slide rule up until last two quarters of senior year. Still have my Post Versalog in leather case.

 

[SlideRuleEra]

MRM - I was pulling for the Seattle, too. Though that they were going to save the day in that last minute... but so it goes.

Ron - I didn't know you had been a reservist. After four years active duty, I stayed in the AF Reserve for an additional 18 years. One of the best things, both professionally and personally that I have done.

Post Versalog slide rule! Impressive. I used the competing all metal Pickett.

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[Ron]

SRE...Post Versalog was a very thoughtful gift from my sister when I graduated high school.

I agree that the military service I had was an experience I'll never forget nor regret. Oddly, I get tagged as a veteran from complete strangers. They mention my posture and demeanor....I've never seen it but my wife says it is obvious, particularly when someone puts me on the defensive. Oh well. Hasn't hurt me so far, so I'll stick with I got...or as we used to say....I'll run what I brung.

 

[SlideRuleEra]

It took a few years for calculators to get the combination of advanced and affordable before I phased out the slide rule. My parents gave me an expensive ($100) Texas Instrument SR-10 calculator in 1973. It was just a little more than a 4-function model. The strangest combination of calculator / slide rule use was the PE exam late in 1974. Used the calculator for addition / subtraction and slide rule for multiplication / division, trig functions, exponentials, and everything else. Took a lot of paper to write down the results of calculations on one device to input into the other before coming up with answers to the problems. About 1980, finally went totally to a suitable calculator.

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