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Use SRS input for Nastran SOL 111

Mech.ing.mg

Mechanical
Dec 20, 2024
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hello everybody. It’s my first time here, so I introduce myself. I’m Mat, Mech engineer, and I work as stress analyst. I’m used to employ SOL111 for random response analysis. PSD input -> SOL111 -> PSD output. Quite straightforward. When dealing with shock input, given SRS profile, I usually calculate an “associated” acceleration time profile (that has a SRS covering the given SRS) and then I perform a transient analysis (SOL112) to calculate stress output and assess structural integrity. I was wondering (and I’ll really be grateful for your help) if it could be possible to use the given SRS as input for a SOL111 to generate stress output. Is it legit? How Nastran understands that the input is not a PSD? And finally, how the calculated stress results should be considered to assess structural integrity?
Many thanks for your help
Mat
 
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Dear Mat,
Random Vibration analysis is a postprocessing task of modal dynamic frequency response (SOL111), see my blog of Simcenter FEMAP & NASTRAN:
The excitation for a frequency response (SOL111) in general is a constante acceleration in the frequency range, either a force loading or a base motion, see my blog:

If you have a sock event excitation of Response Spectrum Acceleration vs Frequency you need to run a Response Spectrum Application analysis (see my web: http://desarrollo.iberisa.com/soporte/femap/dinamico/response_spectrum_4story.htm): you will get the max response of the structure, is only one value, is a way to perform a trasient analysis for us poor engineers.

If you have a seismic excitation of acceleration in the time domain you can perform a Response Spectrum Generation analysis: the NASTRAN solver will generate the acceleration vs frequency (output spectra) at the location specified using different damping values. This spectrum will be used as the excitation of a Response Spectrum Application analysis of the component located at that point to obtain the peak reponse of displacements and vonMises stress. This type of analysis is also referred to as Shock Response Spectrum (SRS) Analysis.

The THEORY says the following:
Response Spectrum Analysis is an approximate method used to predict the peak response of some component to a transient excitation at the base of the structure, for instance, a sesismic excitation. The primary assumption made for this analysis process is that the peak response of the component is calculated without regard to the exact time it is occurring.

Response Spectrum Generation analysis in general, is actually a two-step analysis process. The first step is to perform a transient dynamic analysis of some relatively coarse representation of a base structure. Parameters are added to the analysis which cause Simcenter Nastran to create and output an acceleration response spectrum at selected locations on the structure. Typically these are locations where some detailed model of interest is attached.

The second step of applying the spectrum to the detailed model is performed by using a specialized solution based on a normal modes analysis. This technique calculates the peak response by scaling the modal responses by the input spectrum and then summing the modal responses using one of the available summation techniques. It is a useful and economical tool in determining the maximum response of a structure without regard to the exact time it is occurring.


I love to run Modal Transient Dynamic analysis (SOL112) to deal with shock loading analysis, see my blog, but the cost is important, then when available I preferer to work in the frequency domain, is cheaper!.

Best regards,
Blas.
 

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