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Wall St Journal realises that green pork !=CO2 solution 2

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GregLocock

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Apr 10, 2001
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paywalled sadly. This may be a copy
Take the Joe Manchin-sponsored climate compromise coming together in the U.S. Senate. Despite panegyrics in the press, this euphoric proposal amounts to exactly the sort of subsidy regime the National Academy of Sciences in 2013, after a similar splurge, judged to be a “poor tool for reducing greenhouse gases and achieving climate-change objectives.”

One analysis pinpointed in the fewest possible words why: “Alternative energy is not replacement energy.”

Such packages are sold on the public’s faulty intuition that an erg of green energy consumed is an erg of fossil energy that stays in the ground. But it does not follow. The most widely celebrated paper in recent years on the economics of climate change concludes that green-energy subsidies mostly just increase total energy consumption rather than displace fossil fuels. The impact on CO2 and temperatures is “minuscule,” according to Princeton’s José Luis Cruz Álvarez and Esteban Rossi-Hansberg.


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all we can see are a mass of little pig tails, wagging away, as they are snout down in the trough.
and little real change.
sigh

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
Eco-hucksters, or more likely greenwashing by the pork industry feeling under threat (as they should).

The saying ’you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear’ is doubly applicable here.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
 
You're a real conundrum, Brim. In one thread you tell us the science is settled and we aren't qualified to discuss it while here you say there is greenwashing and maybe the industry needs a bit more outside scrutiny. Which is it?
 
Logic meltdown or stalking failure, which is it this time?

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
 

sounds like politicians at a trough... my second employer likened politics to a pig farm... the trough stays the same, only the pigs change! and that was 50 years back. [pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
Ridicule it or not, it's one of the possible changes happening in the future... Sounds like it would go with green eggs... with apologies to Dr. Seus.[pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
dik,

Exactly - same trough, different pigs. Chickens and eggs are a sustainable animal protein solution in many places (but not the way the US poultry triopoly does it).

The Lorax, one of the nonfiction books I brainwashed my kids with, should be required reading in ENG 101.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
 
yeah, explains a lot ...

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
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