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another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?
 
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we don`t need to worry about global warming … we`ll finish ourselves off, and the Earth will probably think "phew, glad that's over".

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?
 
Luckily for us, while a machine could possibly fool the Turing test, the current vogue for AI is a long ways from actually thinking, even more so than, say, 30 years ago. A long time ago (for computing), the thought was that AI should mimic how a human processed data, but nearly every successful AI has wound up using brute force and ignorance: Big Blue, most NLPs, most image recognition. By brute force and ignorance, I mean that they simply train the AI on a dataset and with some amount of supervision (guidance), the AI associates "object" with "label;" there is no "thought" or "thinking" behind the processing, because it turns out that our intuition about how an AI should "think" gets trumped by sheer computing power being able to crank through the data with no regard to what we humans thought was the way it should process the data.

However, the end result is something even worse than enmity, it's complete obliviousness and utter disregard. Thus, there is no need to wipe out the human race, since that wastes resources and simply efficiently pillaging natural resources and not worrying about polluting the environment, since a machine doesn't care about that, they'll eliminate us as a natural byproduct of their dominance of the earth.

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is there an optimist in the room ?

on a lighter note … there's a US election going up !? … how bad can it get ??

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I would agree with that assessment/description of the current state of AI, there still doesn't appear to be very much intelligence in it. Personally, I think it's why self driving cars will hit a wall, that brute force matching a dataset approach can only get the developers so close to the elusive full AI driving goal.
 
I did take that class on "Computational Linguistics," where we tried to parse sentences for parts of speech, but the resulting spaghetti code contained a truckload of exceptions to pretty much every rule we had.

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There's that question again. If a swarm of drones sneaks onto a cargo plane, does the plane "feel" their weight if they stay in mid air?
 
Yes, but if a tree falls in the forest, they will be too far away to hear it.

Bill
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Jimmy Carter
 

You really don't want to go there... scarier than AI.

Dik
 

If it does, and they are far enough to not hear it... it doesn't make a sound... it's that simple.

Dik
 
And if the plane accelerates, and all the drones "drift" towards the rear, their sensors will tell them to resist crashing against the rear bulkhead and fly away from it. Will this drone force slow the plane down?
 
if my car knows enough to station keep with the car ahead (or alert me if something unexpected happens … that is, something it didn't expect to happen) then I'm pretty sure an AI drone can. Although if may get confused if (as a plane, like a Raptor) it is trying to station keep on a helicopter (that could be hovering) ??

I think there's more than we know happening in AI … and those who do know are building their lairs … (like super-villains)

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and today from Flight …



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AI to dogfight against real-world fighter aircraft in 2024: Pentagon
By Garrett Reim9 September 2020

“We see AI as a tool to free up resources, time and manpower, so our people can focus on higher priority tasks and arrive at the decision point, whether in a lab or on the battlefield, faster and more precise than the competition,” says US secretary of defense Mark Esper.

"than the competition" ... when did war become a game ?



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its apparently to off load the ROE decision away from the stick monkey.

So the monkey poles it into and area and teh pod starts picking up target.

A load of lawyers then press a yes no button with what it has picked up.

If they press yes then it becomes an active target. Then the mil side of things take over again and say that's the highest priority. The monkey then drives the asset into a valid target solution. The lawyers then confirm its still a legal valid target ROE wise. Then the weapon is released.

These things are not yet target and fire and forget AI making all the choices.
 
an AI dogfight couldn't work with "the man back at base" in the loop … it'd have to be autonomous and somewhat creative.

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Yes, but it is streamlining of the process of classifying afghans on the ground as 'military age males' (~14-60) an thus OK to target that took off in the obama era.
 
Agree, let's go back to discussing weapons with a long track record of causing massive collateral damage.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
 
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