Where is "Delay View Update" in NX9 Preference Drafting 1

[PSI-CAD]

Hi,

Where is "Delay View Update" in NX9 Preference Drafting ?

I was able to set in the Customer default but it doesn't work

Thanks in advance

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos

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[JohnRBaker]

We've change the terminology from setting a "Delay" to to setting an "Automatic" behavior. You can find the setting that you're looking for at...

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[jpetach]

I think the issue is that the template part is overruling the customer defaault.

 

[PSI-CAD]

Hi John

Thanks for this information, but have a look at the video ? It doesn't work

Hi Joe,

I don't agree with you

Thanks in advance

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos

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[JohnRBaker]

You may be right. Let me check it out and get back to you.

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[JohnRBaker]

OK, mystery solved.

What we did in NX 9.0 was move the 'Delay View Update' to a more 'logical' location since it's really a global setting. You can now find the toggle at...

Menu -> Tools -> Update -> Delay View Update

While I don't know this for sure, I suspect that eventually these 'Update' options will move to some more easily discovered place on one or more Ribbon Tabs.

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[PSI-CAD]

Hi John

Thanks John

It works like NX8.5 when doing some modifications in modeling

But I found a limitation that maybe exist also in NX8.5 when doing some modifications in drafting (with PMI bidirectionnal):

If we edit a PMI dimension in the main drafting view, this view update only. The sheet remain "Out Of Date"

If we edit a PMI dimension in another view this view doesn't update

Have a look at the video

Regards

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos

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[JohnRBaker]

I think you'll find that updating a single view will not automatically change the update status of the Drawing itself. And I suspect that this has always been this way.

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[cubalibre000]

Hi John,
three location for the update view setting ?
Are too much..users are disoriented.


Thank you...

Using NX 8 and TC9.1

 

[JohnRBaker]

Could you please point out the "three locations" for me?

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[cubalibre000]

3 location :
1) Customer default
2) Drafting preferences
3) Menu -> Tools -> Update -> Delay View Update

Where the last can override the second.
This is new in NX9.
If I remember, you didn't know the existence of the last setting, you had investigate.
If a person like you don't know this new situation,I can't imagine an user that has problems like Didier resolve this problem.
Make CAD simple and converge setting in one place.

Thank you...

Using NX 8 and TC9.1

 

[PSI-CAD]

Hi Cubalibre00,

There is no more setting in Drafting Préférences and it's normal that "Menu -> Tools -> Update -> Delay View Update" override the Customer default

I could find by myself the new place of the setting with "command finder" but I had forgotten it

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos

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[JohnRBaker]

The so-called 'three locations' are all different and each controls something different.

First off, the Customer Default presets the 'Delay' option ONLY for new Drawings being created from scratch. Changing this setting will have NO effect whatsoever on any existing Drawing files.

As for the second place, Drafting Preferences, as Didier has already pointed out, the 'Delay' setting is NO longer there. What is there, and which always has been there, is the option of toggle ON whether NEW views being created will 'Automatically Update' or not. The status of this setting is inherited by each NEW Drawing view as they are created. And once created, this setting can be changed, by using the new 'View Settings' function on a view-by-view basis. Again, this is NOT new.

And for the third location, at Tools -> Update, yes this is a NEW LOCATION, but the behavior has NOT changed one bit. This setting is on a per Drawing basis and at the time the Drawing was created (OR when the Drawing template was originally created) the Part file inherited the status of the 'Delay' setting from Customer Defaults. But once a Drawing exists, you can override the Customer Default setting by now going to Tools -> Update (prior to NX 9.0 you did this in Preferences -> Drafting). The purpose of this option was to disable, when toggled ON, any of the 'Automatic' settings on the Drawing views themeseleves. Toggling this option ON provided a way that when a Drawing was opened, that it would come-up as fast as possible since Drawing views would NOT be forced to update even if the changes made to the model(s) were minor. It left the control of this update in hands of the user who could so snytime he wished using the 'View Update' function found on the Drafting interface. This can be very important in the case of Drawings of large Assemblies where out of hundreds of Components maybe only one simple part has changed yet this change, if the 'Delay' setting was NOT toggled ON would force the entire Drawing to update, which could take a long time. That is why, out-of-the-box, this Customer Default is toggled ON by default.

So the bottom line is that as far as behavior is concerned, NOTHING HAS CHANGED! The only thing that has really changed is that in the restructuring and reformatting of the Preferences/Settings dialogs it was decided to move 'Delay View Update' to where the rest of the 'Update' options were located.

As for why I missed this myself, I was going by the What's New Guide as well as the functional specs for the various project that I was part of the review process during development (and for the record, I don't review EVERY single project for each release of NX, as there are hundreds, many in areas where I can add little if any value). Note that I have been in contact with the people responsible for moving this setting and have recommended that even in the case of something as minor as this, that it would have been good if this had been noted in the 'What's New Guide' since many people, myself included, uses this document as our first source when looking for what has changed and WHY.

Anyway, I hope this clears-uo any confusion that this might have caused.

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[PSI-CAD]

Hi John

Note that I have been in contact with the people responsible for moving this setting and have recommended that even in the case of something as minor as this, that it would have been good if this had been noted in the 'What's New Guide' since many people, myself included, uses this document as our first source when looking for what has changed and WHY.

Very good

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos

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[cubalibre000]

I've installed NX9.0.1 and the setting is present under Preferences : Drafting : View : Common : General : Workflow : Automatic Update
Then, there are three setting for the automatic update view.

Thank you...

Using NX 8 and TC9.1

 

[JohnRBaker]

I'm sorry, but I've already explained what has and what has NOT happened in NX 9.0. Just trust me, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THE 'DELAY VIEW UPDATE' OPTION WAS MOVED FROM DRAFTING PREFERENCES TO THE TOOLS-> UPDATE LOCATION, NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!!!!!

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