Greenalleycat
Structural
- Jul 12, 2021
- 508
Hey team,
Coming at you live from another office technical discussion...do you include wind face loads (out of plane loads) in the design of your steel / timber lintels? This is in a residential context but I suppose would be fairly comparable in commercial too.
Common sense says yes, wind face loads should be included, with tributary equal to half the jack stud wall above and half the window/door below. However, here in NZ (probably like other countries too) we have a 'pre-engineered' code that builders, architects, and homeowners can use to size common house items, including lintels, without specific engineering involvement. This code has a technical basis that we can review, and this doesn't include any wind face loads on lintels. So, as soon as something falls outside the 'pre-engineered' limits, we have to do a specific design, which inevitably leads to a huge jump in lintel size just to make the out-of-plane loads work.
A huge portion of the buildings here are built off the 'pre-engineered' code and seem to perform without issue, so it raises the question as to how exactly this all works. Is it luck? Secondary systems? Greater stiffness inherent in the linings?
What approaches do you guys take in your offices?
Coming at you live from another office technical discussion...do you include wind face loads (out of plane loads) in the design of your steel / timber lintels? This is in a residential context but I suppose would be fairly comparable in commercial too.
Common sense says yes, wind face loads should be included, with tributary equal to half the jack stud wall above and half the window/door below. However, here in NZ (probably like other countries too) we have a 'pre-engineered' code that builders, architects, and homeowners can use to size common house items, including lintels, without specific engineering involvement. This code has a technical basis that we can review, and this doesn't include any wind face loads on lintels. So, as soon as something falls outside the 'pre-engineered' limits, we have to do a specific design, which inevitably leads to a huge jump in lintel size just to make the out-of-plane loads work.
A huge portion of the buildings here are built off the 'pre-engineered' code and seem to perform without issue, so it raises the question as to how exactly this all works. Is it luck? Secondary systems? Greater stiffness inherent in the linings?
What approaches do you guys take in your offices?