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    Redundant fire pumps for campus setup

    Yep used to make this a requirement when we had $100 million ie building, contents and business interruption coverages as the insurance carrier loss control representative. We used to test fire pumps ie hose monster, hose etc. I would occasionally get a fire pump failure for various reasons and...
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    NPFA 30 - Warehouse Fire protection schemes A,B,C,D,E - What sets the scheme

    I would hire a fire protection engineer to provide design information, review the fire protection plans, and review the installation to make sure it was installed as per the plans. Besides the sprinkler protection they need to perhaps look at liquid containment,etc. If the protection is not...
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    Minimal requirements and demands for basement Storage

    Joe, Thanks for the reply a few more questions…. What is the actual product? What is the packaging, if cardboard how many layers, single, double, multiple? What type of pallet wood, plastic? Are you using NFPA 13 definition for commodity classification? So they are using NFPA 13 for...
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    Minimal requirements and demands for basement Storage

    Joe, “ Thanks for guidance, definitely I'll consult AHJ for input but before that I have to assure them that I 've studied my lessons and I know what I'm talking about.” Nope ….the AHJ tells you what they want and or what the minimum requirements are. They approve the plans, you need to make...
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    NPFA 30 - Warehouse Fire protection schemes A,B,C,D,E - What sets the scheme

    Try looking at Factory Mutual( FM) Data Sheet 7-29 IGNITABLE LIQUID STORAGE IN PORTABLE CONTAINERS FM is a global property insurance carrier and may have more up to date protection criteria. They have a full scale fire protection testing facility. The data sheets are free. As others have said...
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    Minimal requirements and demands for basement Storage

    Joe, Regarded sprinkler protection in the basement as long as the sprinkler design meets the requirements of NFPA 13 you are OK. But no hazardous materials ie flammables, etc. in the basement. Definitely reach out to the AHJ for input. As a firefighter basement fires are very difficult to...
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    Main Drain Test Question

    Definitely check the fire and jockey pump start and stop setting in the jockey and fire pump controllers. NFPA 20 offers some examples as noted below if for some reason the main drain is Not starting the fire pump. Sometimes they are not set properly. Examples of fire pump settings follow (for...
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    Vehicle garage - sprinkler selection

    What are the ceiling temperature sprinklers? Take look, no color ordinary 165, intermediate 212 white, high blue 286 on the frame of the sprinkler. Sometimes you get lucky and the spare heads in the box at the riser will have them, check the date on the head. If this was once a warehouse it...
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    Vehicle garage - sprinkler selection

    Wow I hope you have adequate insurance coverage…. A few comments 1. What is the existing sprinkler design? 2. Are you just adding ductwork or entire new sprinkler system? 3. The ductwork sprinklers should be the same temperature , size, etc. as the ceiling sprinklers. 4. If you have space...
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    Vehicle garage - sprinkler selection

    I do not understand why you are doing the design for the project, it is the sprinkler contractor job, so let him do it. You design you just taken on all the legal responsibility. Have him submit the plans to the local AHJ and insurance carrier, your butt is covered! You should say must be...
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    Fire Pump Motor

    Did you try calling them?? United States Customer Service: 1-833-734-2500 Regal Rexnord Corporation 111 W Michigan St Milwaukee, WI 53203 Phone: (608) 364-8800 Fax: (608) 364-8816;
  12. LCREP

    Fire Pump Motor

    What did the motor/pump mfg say? It is the only explanation I would accept if I questioned it as the AHJ.
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    Fire Resistance of Tilt-Up Construction in Cold Storage Facilities

    Mike, I was on the insurance side of the business for 35 years as a Loss Control engineer. A few comments.. 1. Set up a meeting with the insurance company engineering department for input. They are the best ones to advise you. I participated in many of these meetings. Afterwords I would...
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    what makes an engineer an engineer?

    I spent 35 years on the insurance side as a property loss control engineer. I do not have an engineering degree. Everyday was different based on what I was evaluating ie manufacturing, warehousing, chemical facilities. Something spending 3-5 days on site evaluating the fire, water, and burglary...
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    16' HIGH RACK STORAGE

    Oh the joy of warehouse fire protection, so many things to consider with just a few changes causing problems. I will add any idle wood pallet storage most times this will have a higher sprinkler demand higher than 6 feet of storage on the ground. Put them in the racks….it gets even more...
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    NFPA 20: Type of valve at test connection on sensing lines

    This has been in NFPA 20 for a long time, at least since 1979 when I started in the insurance business in the USA. Why the NFPA 20 committee went this way I have no idea but I have tested 1000’s over the years never had a problem. If this job is in the USA you better follow what is required or...
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    Sulfuric Acid Storage

    I think section 2.4.5.2 regarding vacuum breakers, hydrogen gas detection and high level alarms are definitely things to consider. Again they are trying to limit a loss $$ by early intervention.
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    Sulfuric Acid Storage

    From an insurance engineering point of view check out FM Data Sheet 7-111F on Sulfuric Acid, 8 pages of information and protection requirements. Free to download at https://www.fmglobal.com/research-and-resources/fm-global-data-sheets FM = Factory Mutual a global property insurance company. Tom
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    I am looking for help. This is abou

    When I was a volunteer firefighter in a rural area with limited public water supply we had new home developments install underground 30,000 gallon storage tanks. We had both a fill side and drafting point. So we could start drafting until a tankers from surrounding areas could respond and either...
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    I am looking for help. This is abou

    Not clear what you are looking for so a few questions. Is the water supply connected to a fire pump or is it a static supply? If a static supply is the 60 k gallons ie a tank, a pond, etc. If a pond did you add for the pond being frozen given its in Canada? Did you talk to the Fire Department...
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