2 dead in Tesla accident "Noone wasdrivingthe car" 15

[MartinLe]

https://www.click2houston.com/news/...er-fiery-tesla-crash-in-spring-officials-say/

“no one was driving” the fully-electric 2019 Tesla when the accident happened. There was a person in the passenger seat of the front of the car and in the rear passenger seat of the car.

the vehicle was traveling at a high speed when it failed to negotiate a cul-de-sac turn, ran off the road and hit the tree.

The brother-in-law of one of the victims said relatives watched the car burn for four hours as authorities tried to tap out the flames.

Authorities said they used 32,000 gallons of water to extinguish the flames because the vehicle’s batteries kept reigniting. At one point, Herman said, deputies had to call Tesla to ask them how to put out the fire in the battery.

 

[TugboatEng]

I guess you have managed the problem better. There are two very specific demographics that trash our public transit systems here in the USA.

 

[LionelHutz]

Robots don't have to be safer than humans. If the robots are safer than a fiftieth percentile driver, we can use them to make the streets safer.

So, put the good drivers into a robot car that are more likely to kill them?

 

[dik]

I worked in Toronto for about 30 years... one of the best times of my life... so many things to do and see and so little time to do it.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[drawoh]

LionelHutz,

My assumption is that the good drivers will continue driving.

--
JHG

 

[drawoh]

I guess you have managed the problem better. There are two very specific demographics that trash our public transit systems here in the USA.

If the transit is allowed to get messy, it will stay messy. The Toronto Transit Commission (TTC supposedly means Take The Car) does a good job of cleaning subways, buses and streetcars. It is a lot easier to drop garbage on a garbage strewn floor. I was under the impression that New York had cleaned theirs up quite a bit.

When I was a student, I had a summer job at a theme park. One of my jobs was to pick up garbage. The key was to get started early in the morning so that garbage bearing people observed clean grounds.

--
JHG

 

[TugboatEng]

Your last point is very true.

 

[dik]

I don't know if it's true, but a bus driver on the Winnipeg Transit said they have a giant vacuum cleaner that they attach to the door and it sucks out debris... and then they do a quick manual inspection for stuff it missed.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[Lou Scannon]

I was aware of that system being used by LACMTA (Los Angeles County) back in the early 90s.

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz

 

[Lou Scannon]

My assumption is that the good drivers will continue driving.

I will stop driving (my V8 RWD grandpamobile) when they pry the steering wheel from my cold dead hands

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz

 

[GregLocock]

Oh they won't ban manual driving cars. However, the insurance premiums might encourage the use of L4+.

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[TugboatEng]

The worst are people who think they are good driver's.

Even the supposed pro's have it wrong. The California Highway Patrol has been asking drivers to watch their mirrors and move out of the way when they see drivers approaching at 100+ mph. The hoodlums are out of control on highway 4. Anyways, they call that defensive driving but anybody that has ever driven or ridden on a race track knows that defensive driving is to hold your line. The passer has better perspective on the situation and needs to be 100% responsible for the pass, especially when many tracks don't allow mirrors.

 

[verymadmac]

That's what FMEAs are for.

Yes but have you seen one (non military) one that includes human issues in the design, production and life cycle management chain such as interference by foreign powers or their agents, deliberate corporate mis-management (think Boeing but worse), etc, etc.

 

[GregLocock]

All driving of a cliff at 11 years old sounds like software Y2000, not human factors.

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[dik]

I recall a saying from the 70s... don't ban high performance cars, ban low performance drivers... the days of the 'muscle car'.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[LionelHutz]

The California Highway Patrol has been asking drivers to watch their mirrors and move out of the way when they see drivers approaching at 100+ mph.

The thing is, that driver should already have moved to the right if a right lane was open.

A few years ago, I drove from Niagara Falls to downtown Toronto and from the Niagara area to Hamilton, I cruised along straight up the right lane driving by all the slow left and middle lane hogs. In one stretch, after miles of open lane I approached one driver who was driving properly and using the proper lane but he must have realized the futility of his driving and shifted left as I approached to let me go past.

 

[JohnRBaker]

In California, unless you're driving a truck over a certain size or towing a trailer, you're allowed to drive in whichever lane you wish as long as you're not holding-up the normal flow of traffic. You can also overtake slower traffic, again no matter which lane you're driving in.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-'Product Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
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It's finding someone you can't live without

 

[drawoh]

I recall a saying from the 70s... don't ban high performance cars, ban low performance drivers... the days of the 'muscle car'.

Large parts of the USA and Canada are inaccessible to people who are unable, unwilling, or not allowed to drive. Our cars and roads must function for a very low common denominator. Robot cars may be the way to keep bad drivers away from the wheel, and allow us good drivers to run at the speeds we want to.

Given that 80% of drivers rate themselves as above average, don't be surprised if you get banned from driving.[ ]

--
JHG

 

[Lou Scannon]

So far, private automobile design has been evolving to enable progressively worse (or at least progressively less engaged) drivers to take the wheel and get from A to B somehow. It will be a game changer if these drivers don't have to take the wheel at all.

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz

 

[coloeng]

One dead, two injured in a Tesla crash in California.

"As of Thursday, federal highway safety regulators were investigating 24 accidents involving Tesla operating on Autopilot."

If there have been 24 crashes by Teslas operating in "Autopilot" is this really safer than human driven vehicles? How many Teslas are currently on the road that have the "Autopilot" feature?

 

[dik]

My eyesight is slowly failing and affecting my peripheral vision... For safety reasons, I quit driving about 5 years back.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik