2018 NYFC Section 903.3.1.1.1 Exempt Locations

[DRBeutler]

Have AHJ indicating 2018 NYFC Section 903.3.1.1.1 of the Fire Code is requiring fire sprinklers above drop-in ceiling areas where automatic detection is not provided. The space above the ceiling is non-combustible (beams + bar joist, HVAC, typical office space systems.

Automatic sprinklers shall not be required in the following rooms "or areas" where such rooms "or areas" are protected with an approved automatic fire detection system in accordance with Section 907.2 that will respond to visible or invisible particles of combustion. Sprinklers shall not be omitted from a room merely because it is damp, of fire-resistance-rated construction or contains electrical equipment.

Hanging his hat on the word "area", that this space above the ceiling is an area. Do not think that is the spirit of the code.

 

[cdafd]

Do you have a link to the sections your are cite?

This is what I found

https://up.codes/viewer/new_york_city/nyc-fire-code-2022/chapter/9/fire-protection-systems#903.1

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/fdny/pdfviewer/viewer.html?file=chapter-9-2022.pdf&section=firecode_2022

 

[cdafd]

so this section::

https://up.codes/viewer/new_york_ci...hapter/9/fire-protection-systems#*903.3.1.1.1

How are you connected contractor, sprinkler company other??

Seems like you need to go up the chain, till you find intelligent life. Appeal.

 

[DRBeutler]

Thanks!
Sprinkler contractor.
Yes, that is the correct section.
My thoughts the same, craziest think I have heard.

 

[cdafd]

Ok just wondering which side of the fence you were on.

Does the Fire Department in this ahj get involved in plan review / inspections???

If so are they any help??

Pull sections out of 13 and throw at the ahj!!!

Ask the ahj, for three addresses where this has been required…. See what answer you get.

Lastly appeals process

Good luck,, seek intelligent life