Are engineers timid? 18

[lacajun]

During a conversation with a salesman, he stated that engineers are uncomfortable cold calling companies or people. If you gave one an assignment to call fifteen companies, institutions, people, he would be very uncomfortable doing it. He believes the task would not get done.

All thoughts and humor are welcome.

 

[btrueblood]

Yeah, some nimrod thought you were a member and posted there.

 

[SnTMan]

lacajun, I doubt you need to worry about your business head. Look at all the people who do make it in business, apparently without a clue.

Regards,

Mike

 

[patprimmer]

Yes the dimwit who posted a message to you in the pub ain't no rocket scientist. OH! that's right he is. Just goes to show we all have brain fades sometimes

Regards
Pat
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[SNORGY]

So, what about...

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[FeX32]

I wise old man told me once, "Silence is the key to living".

I am still not quite sure what he meant.


Fe (IronX32)

 

[lacajun]

You guys humble me in so many ways. You're too kind!

Pat, thank you for the invitation to your pub.

SnTMan, I've been asking the Lord about that very point! I hope He'll see my cluelessness, too! :-0

This week has been so busy... No positive cash flow yet but I'm working on it diligently. I networked with a Ph.D. in chemistry this week. He showed me his BMW then asked about my car, which is an Element. As I highlighted all its features, he said, "This looks like a car an engineer would drive." We have such a nerdy, utilitarian reputation no wonder we need Image Control Assistance! Intellect is not going to do The Trick!

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC

 

[SnTMan]

lacajun , kind of a coincidence there, I have been considering an Element for some time. I think they are cool, and there is really nothing like them. Disappointed they quit making them.

 

[lacajun]

SnTMan, they are a lot of fun to drive. My sister and nephew love driving it. It's got a lot of room, which always surprises people. I don't watch the market like in past years so I was not aware they stopped production. Sales may have been better had they put a V-6 in it and 6" more on the back end. It gets mushy in the mountains on steep grades. The standard is better in the mountains but it is still too mushy.

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC

 

[patprimmer]

And for the rest of the world who are over 50% of members, an element is

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[SNORGY]

I drive a Ram.
I guess I am just out of my element.

 

[lacajun]

Pat, it's a Honda Element vehicle that was produced in Marysville, OH for several years.

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC

 

[patprimmer]

OK. We don't get them here. That styling and 'class" seems pretty unique to the US market. Dodge Nitro, Hummer C3 etc.

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Pat
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[lacajun]

I bought one because I can put my bicycle in the back easily and won't ram it into the garage, drive-in, etc. I can also sleep in it, which I have done a number of times.

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Quillin Engineering, LLC

 

[patprimmer]

Yep The CRV is a bit small for that. That market is filled here by Land Cruisers, Klugers, Pajeros, Mazda MX7 or 9, Nissan Patrol Range Rover, Ford Teritory and a few Korean brands.

Heck I can even get my bike into the back of my old Honda Integra hatch. No chance to sleep in it though.

The classic Aussie sleep casual sleep over mobile was the Holden Sandman. They where particularly popular with Surfers and teen aged Casanovas.

They now have a cult following.

[link Sandman]

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=h...D4rAiQf-x_CnCg&ved=0CIcBELAE&biw=1366&bih=641

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[SnTMan]

lacajun, one of the things I really like is the rubber floor. Still trying to figure out who thought it was a good idea to carpet pickups.

Buying used is not a problem for me, I don't buy new cars anyway. Currently use a 1994 Nissan pickup for my daily driver and it does fine, but getting to where I would like an auto, FWD and some rear seating now and then. The general run of SUV are not utilitarian enough for me, there's the carpet thing again

Regards,

Mike

 

[lacajun]

Pat, I put my bike behind the driver's seat and sleep on the passenger side. I bought the privacy curtains and use them sometimes. Your link didn't work or Safari cannot find it.

Mike, the floor is super easy. I have had all manner of crud in it but it's never been hard to clean. Wipe and go! The most frequent comment I've heard is how roomy it is. The height in the back is another comment frequently heard. It's been great fun. The next vehicle may be a van. But, I don't ride as much now so maybe something else...

Here are a couple of pix from last summer. My brother and I took a trip in it and it was loaded.

Element Rear

Element Side

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC

 

[lacajun]

I need to change my social circles. I was told recently that engineers are weird, not normal, and emotionally disconnected. I don't think of all of us as those things at all. It was a blanket statement. But no amount of convincing was going to work so I stopped. I think some of those things apply to humanity regardless of occupation. With just a little thinking...

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC

 

[FeX32]

My social circles are separated. That is, the engineers I "hang out" with are one, and the "other" are kept separate.
I guess when non-engineers see that an engineer is posting physics questions on facebook, that person is labeled as weird, socially disconnected, and a nerd. That's the way of the world.
Give them all a few pints and they can forget about the nerdiness for a while.




Fe (IronX32)

 

[patprimmer]

Pamela.

That is their way of maintaining their self esteem at your expense when they realise you know things so far over their head, they can't begin to imagine.

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[lacajun]

FeX32, my circles run together, overlap, mix, mingle, etc. I've always enjoyed bringing diverse people together. However, I make an attempt to keep things on a level such that everyone can participate. Being excluded really stinks and hurts people, which is not my intent. My experience with bitter people and a few pints is ugly, angry hatred.

Pat, I think you're correct in your lesson of the day. That idea has never crossed my mind. This individual seems to have a great need to be identified as nerdy and has made a big point of their nerd factor more than once. I believe one psychological point in play is projection, which is where I went. It seems they're projecting their own problems onto me.

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC