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Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom by Dr Patrick Moore 5

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rb1957

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Apr 15, 2005
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Here is Dr. Patrick Moore's description of his unique thesis as presented in Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom. "It dawned on me one day that most of the scare stories in the media today are based on things that are invisible, like CO2 and radiation, or very remote, like polar bears and coral reefs. Thus, the average person cannot observe and verify the truth of these claims for themselves. They must rely on activists, the media, politicians, and scientists - all of whom have a huge financial and/or political interest in the subject - to tell them the truth. This is my effort, after 50 years as a scientist and environmental activist, to expose the misinformation and outright lies used to scare us and our children about the future of the Earth. Direct observation is the very basis of science. Without verified observation it is not possible to know the truth. That is the sharp focus of this book." The book contains 98 color photographs, illustrations, and charts. A key target audience is parents who do not approve of the "progressive" school curriculum and its alarmism about the future of civilization and the natural world. Dr. Moore hopes these parents will read his book and pass it on to their high-school and older children to give them an alternative to the bleak future predicted by the merchants of doom. Many other audiences will also find the book informative and convincing. In 11 chapters the reader is clearly shown that citizens are being misinformed by so many environmental doomsday prophesies, ones they cannot verify for themselves. We are told that nuclear energy is very dangerous when the numbers prove it is one of the safest technologies. We are told polar bears will go extinct soon when their population has been growing steadily for nearly 50 years. We are told that there is something harmful in genetically modified food crops when it is invisible, has no name and no chemical formula. We are told severe forest fires are caused by climate change when they are actually caused by poor management of fuel load (dead wood) in the forest. We are told that all the coral reefs will die by 2100 when in fact the most diverse coral reefs are found in the warmest oceans in the world. And of course, we are told that invisible CO2 from using fossil fuels, accounting for more than 80 percent of our energy supply, will make the Earth too hot for life. All of these scare stories, and many more, are simply not true. And this book will convince you, your family, and your colleagues of that. There is no substitute for the truth. Dr. Patrick Moore was one of the co-founders of Greenpeace and sailed on the first Greenpeace campaign against US H-bomb tests in Alaska. Upon receiving his PhD in ecology, he spent 15 years in the top committee of Greenpeace and led many of its environmental campaigns. Greenpeace began as a group of volunteers with noble intentions. Over the years it became very successful with campaigns to save the whales, stop the mass slaughter of baby seals, prevent toxic dumping into the air, water and earth, and many more. Greenpeace found itself in the early 1980s with more than $100 million coming in annually and close to 1,000 people on the payroll. It had become a business and fundraising moved to the top of the priority list. New campaigns were more about using sensationalism, misinformation and fear to attract donations. Dr. Moore said good-bye in 1986 as Greenpeace was turning into a racket peddling junk science. Since then he has strived to be a sensible environmentalist, basing his beliefs on sound science and logical thinking. This book is the culmination of 50 years of learning during Dr. Moore's multi-faceted quest for the truth about environmental issues (an historical account of Dr. Moore's 15 years with Greenpeace and his analysis of environmental subjects are in his previous book, "Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout - The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist, also on Amazon).

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Heresy!! How DARE he?

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indeed ...

"blasphemer!" ... "wot? all I said was ..."

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?
 
This is part of a much bigger problem that's working it way through governments, society, the education system, the judiciary, and politics (as independent from governments). Without getting political, I never thought Trump was the problem, but a symptom of a much greater problem. [pipe]

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
This is the problem with this debate. It is very difficult to see, touch, taste the difference.

But the data doesn't lie.

Unfortunately if you choose to ignore or subvert the data once you've decided what you like it to tell you then you can't be argued with. It's whack a mole time.

On the other side yes, there are organisation who have have grown bigger on the prospect of climate doom and it can easily lead to exaggerated claims and fears in order to drive clicks and donations which in the end just feed the denial industry. Not every prediction ( the clue is in the word here) of doom and disaster will be accurate, but it is pretty clear the world is changing well within our lifetime and not for the better. Look at any pictures of glaciers, ice cap limits, ice cap thicknesses and it's all going one way.

Now our world is a phenomenally complex thing and one change may not have the effect people thought it would, or things level off and don't accelerate, but then some do.

It's a huge pity in my opinion that we have this you say we say cherry picking data argument going on. Can't see this book helping in that.

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I think the book goes to solving problems with more government, and how "inevitably" some individuals get richer through this process, and how maybe our "counter-measures" maybe didn't affect the outcome ?

data may not lie, but our interpretation can be mislead.

Climate is a very complex system. Mankind's impact on the environment and climate is also very complex. To say that there is one single factor from mankind's activities that is driving our impact on the environment is trivializing the complexity of the problem.



another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?
 
rb, it's cumulative... but happening, nonetheless...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
So Greenpeace's biggest s**t disturber has gotten religion? Or a better religion?

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
 
I guess that's one way to look at it.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?
 
...or maybe he was just in it to 'make a buck'.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
Patrick Moore unfortunately has made it easier for reactionaries to tar all environmentalists with the brush of "they're just doing this for the attention".

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
 
"The data doesn't lie, but it isn't half puzzling. "
Data is being constantly skewed, for science that is being manipulated, to affect an agenda. We are living it now.
 
Probably I'm just ignorant, but could you get me up to speed on that agenda and who is behind it?

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
 
How much funding would climate scientists get if their news was benign?

Fun fact, citizen scientists have just transcribed many years of handwritten rainfall records for the UK (back to 1677, ie the Little Ice Age), and released a peer reviewed paper. This reveals, not very surprisingly, that recent climate extremes, aren't. Here's a linky to the preprint.
Of course this data will be 'inconvenient', and will have to be 'adjusted' to ensure that the models are still able to forecast gloom and doom.


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"Probably I'm just ignorant, but could you get me up to speed on that agenda and who is behind it?"
Its not on topic to enter into that.
"Who" can be discovered by following the science, and see who is really denying it.
Take for instance the XY chromosomes, and ponder it a bit. If ya can't get that correct then what else can you get correct?
 
enginesrus said:
Take for instance the XY chromosomes, and ponder it a bit. If ya can't get that correct then what else can you get correct?

Nothing obviously, and so it appears my whole life has been a complete waste.
Worse, now my children's chromosomes are totally messed up.

p.s. how can a thread starting with 'Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom by Dr Patrick Moore' possibly go off-topic?


"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
 
Enginerus has a good point. The current science can no longer define gender, how can we trust it to predict the apocalypse? Science has been poisoned.
 
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