Fire shuts down I10 in LA 7

[spsalso]

A fire under the freeway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53bBD9TbxQ

A visual visit to that area using Google Maps shows an enormous amount of flammables placed under the freeway, including wood, tires, and vehicles. It's been my impression that California DOT did not allow that sort of thing, for reasons that might currently appear obvious.

I wonder why this usage was allowed.

I am reminded of that other recent fire, where a freeway on the east coast was taken out:

https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=507741

CADOT was kinda put on notice that fires underneath a freeway were, uh, a problem.



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[dik]

I suspect that with caltrans knowing about these violations for a long time substantially weakens their claims and may even be liable for some of the damage. We'll see how the lawyers spin this.

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[FacEngrPE]

If caltrans filed the eviction promptly and the delay was all due to the "due process" it could strengthen the position that the subletting lessor is due a very large bill. The future lawsuits will be around some time, and could be entertaining.

 

[spsalso]

The staying put for 6 months (long past, by the way) makes sense for non-payment (But they ARE the State).

But this was a rather large safety violation. I wouldn't want to be the judge who delayed THAT eviction.



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[IRstuff]

But they ARE the State

That doesn't allow them to do anything other than asset forfeiture or eminent domain, since they have no more power than anyone else in a court.

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[spsalso]

It DOES allow them to put an awful lot of lawyers and investigators on the case, should they feel the need--something most "anyone else"s have trouble doing. This would appear to move the eviction process forward about as fast as possible.

Cristy Fajardo looks to be a pretty good investigative reporter. I am hoping she will turn up more facts and documents.



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[FacEngrPE]

Cal Trans real time video and announcements. "Fix the 10"

https://dot.ca.gov/fix-10

https://www.foxla.com/news/how-leased-airspaces-led-to-10-freeway-fire[/URL]]
Newsom said that Apex Development Inc. is the lessee of the pallet yard that caught fire early Saturday morning, and that the state has filed an unlawful detainer against the company for a number of alleged violations. According to Newsom, "the lease had expired. We believe they subleased the space to as many as five maybe six tenants without authorization from Caltrans." The state has a court date scheduled for early 2024.

 

[Cool_Controls]

Does anyone else see the irony in propping up a overpass damaged by a pallet fire with wooden shoring? Hopefully the fire department is on hand.

 

[Lomarandil]

Cool controls, if you can get one of those 12x12s to catch fire directly, you let me know. Same thing as mass timber construction...without a massive fire already started (again), they'll never catch.

 

[dik]

That was my thought about the hangar fire... all that lovely timber going up in smoke...

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[Cool_Controls]

I've had to deal with a few utility pole fires over the years, but they usually only smolder (right up until their embers land in a field of dry phragmites)

 

[TugboatEng]

Our welders use 4x4s as blocks. A few beads of red hot metal get them smoldering. A few hours later the 4x4 will be mostly gone, no flames.