Kentucky Bourbon crashes 5

[HamburgerHelper]

Thinking about it. I doubt their insurers or health codes would allow improperly stored liquor to be resold.

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[waross]

Clean-up will be difficult.
A large number of the barrels will be trapped in a three dimensional maze of broken timbers.
Removal from the ground will almost certainly lead to collapses of the pile.
Removal from the top may require a worker on top of the pile attaching lifting gear to individual barrels.
Keeping the worker safe may be a challenge.
Suspended from a crane in a working harness?
Difficult to bend over if the support line is taught; a chance of injury due to shifting barrels and timbers if the support line is slack.
More chance of misadventure as broken timbers are pulled free; the timbers will often be connected to other timbers somewhere out of sight below the surface.

An accidental fire may be a fortuitous event.
This will be interesting to watch.
We may see some "out of the box" thinking and solutions.

And whatever method is used, the workers will soon encounter the maze of broken timbers trapping the barrels.

Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter

 

[Spartan5]

Maybe they could just erect a big "claw machine" over it and charge people $100 a play.

 

[TenPenny]

I wonder how many locals have tried to sneak in there at night so far.

 

[PEDARRIN2]

HamburgerHelper:

I seriously doubt the insurer or health code will have any input into selling the retrieved barrels. It is likely 160 proof so about 80% ethanol (no bacteria or viruses) and the rickhouse was basically a shed which has no heat and allows for free ventilation. As far as improper storing, there is a artisan liquor distiller "Jefferson's Ocean" that stores their barrels on a boat in the middle of salt water body. So, basically anything goes for the most part.

 

[ornerynorsk]

Barrel proof should be well below 160. It will absorb moisture from the air and alcohol will evaporate as it breathes in the maturation process. Will still be a minimum of 120 to 125, though, enough to not have to worry about microbial meanies. Those barrels are sure stout, I would have expected many more to have been broken open by a tumble like that.

It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.

 

[1gibson]

Pour a few dozen tons of sand on top, wet it, start removing barrels from the edge, re-grade the sand as necessary?

 

[PEDARRIN2]

I may have been off a bit on the actual proof of what gets put in the barrel, but the end barrel proof depends on how long it has been in the barrel. If memory serves me correctly alcohol stored in barrels in Scotland gets weaker, but that stored in the U.S. actually gets stronger due to differences in climate.

 

[racookpe1978]

Build a gantry crane gondola like they used over the Colorado River building the Hoover Dam. (And others in canyons like it.)

One fixed point tower on one side of the pile of barrels and rubble.
One mobile tower on tracks (radial) on the far side of the pile.

Four point connection for the grappling clamp (remote controlled) gondola on the cables spanning the pile: This gives you stability in light winds and allows you resist rotary reaction when the grapple clamps a barrel or a broken piece of wood.

Pickup up the top barrel on the pile, lift that barrel, rotate the moving tower radially until the lifting platform is over the salvage truck bed, lower away.
Pickup the highest piece of trash or broken barrel, rotate the moving tower until the pickup platform is over the dump pile or trash removal truck bed, lower away.

Rinse, wash, repeat until pile goes away.

 

[ornerynorsk]

That's interesting Pedarrin2, I didn't know that proof strength could actually migrate upwards. The "angel's share" referred to in Scotland might have some new meaning now . . . perhaps angels are not fond of Bourbon!

It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.

 

[3DDave]

Worries about the qualities of the food are always interesting considering that birds take dumps on wheat fields and bugs crawl all over corn and worms are right up next to potatoes. But wash it, take it to the store and if it hits the floor it is now too contaminated to eat or sell. And let's not get to what happens when someone sneezes near the canned pop-top beverages. Not many soak those in bleach when they get home before opening them up to take a sip.

Anything that is tight enough to keep the alcohol in is tough enough to keep any bad stuff out.

"Barton's Lightly Battered Barrel Whisky" - rolls right into an advertising campaign.

 

[waross]

There will be barrels trapped under diagonally positioned timbers that are them selves trapped under more barrels that are in turn trapped under other timbers.

Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter

 

[btrueblood]

Sounds like they need an expert to help them. I hereby volunteer my services for a moderate fee...and a percentage of the salvage.

 

[dik]

For the value of the product, you can use a mobile platform and carefully remove 'sticks' on top of kegs and remove kegs and remove sticks, etc. Can be done safely...

Dik

 

[VEBill]

Any word on the fraction of barrels that broke open or otherwise leaked, versus the fraction that survived intact?

 

[Brad805]

I would not be surprised to see a squadron of little excavators equipped with a thumb picking out the barrels. I have watched skilled operators sorting rebar with a thumb, and this would be easy picking. I suspect there is an accessory for barrels as well.

I bet there is already a marketing wizard working on a promotion to sell the product. Its about the story and what people will pay.

 

[PEDARRIN2]

ornerynorsk

The angels still get their share because no matter what, there will be less total alcohol in the barrel than when it started. I think the loss of alcoholic concentration in Scotch barrels has to do with higher humidity and lower temperature (in general) in Scotland causes more water to condense than alcohol to evaporate in the barrel. Both still typically dilute it before bottling.

 

[dgallup]

In 1962, the U.S. Treasury raised the legal maximum barrel entry proof from 110 to its current 125. Since you can buy barrel proof bottlings that are higher than 125 it obviously goes up during aging under the right circumstances.

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[ornerynorsk]

Distilled spirits tend to run 160 plus right out of the column, depending on pot temperature and condenser factors, so it's just going to go down from there. It would be an interesting experiment to see if proof can actually increase in the barrel. Were I a betting man I'd say no, but I've been wrong often enough to know better than to bet on things like that



It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.

 

[PEDARRIN2]

I knew I read it somewhere.

Page 21, under title of "Maturation and Aging"

https://www.smwhisky.com.au/wordpre...rish-whiskies-their-history-and-evolution.pdf