Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 10 79

[SFCharlie]

A continuation of our discussion of this failure. Best to read the other threads first to avoid rehashing things already discussed.
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 02
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 03
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 04
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 05
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 06
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 07
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 08
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 09


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[Demented]

Many many threads ago the SE's said water weight on the slab didn't matter.

I came out closer to 121klbs (14500 gal) give or take a few. I also attempted to factor in additional water that would have been sitting on the deck in the areas where water was known to collect and not drain, (which was around the same blocked planters).

The drains were known to be inop and past beautification work filled in overflow holes in the planters. This was also directly over failed concrete repairs. Even if the weight itself wasn't the ultimate thing that collapsed it, the amount of water that could have finally found a flow path would have been quite the amount.
I probably should get back to figuring all that mess out now that the fun with the roof has ended. lol

 

[Optical98]

Just found this article, I'm not even done reading it, but have already picked up details I haven't read elsewhere.

"Control of personnel is absolute. After just a few hours the Americans tell us that there are clear boundaries, that you cannot cross from one side of the site to the other. That of course drives the Israelis crazy."

"Relatives of the family in Apartment 804 tell Yuval they are sure their son went down to the garage before the building collapsed and that right now, he is trapped in his white Cherokee jeep. Yuval forwards the message to me. We go down to the flooded garage and find the car but the son is not there."


Miami: A search and rescue diary

Col. Golan Vach, head of the IDF Home Front Command's search and rescue delegation to the scene of the Surfside tragedy, recalls the chilling, two-week mission at the disaster site. The sleepless nights, the unique operating methods used to locate those trapped under the rubble, and the connection with the victims' families.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/08/06/miami-a-search-and-rescue-diary/

 

[Santos81]

Something, something, hexagon, paper rolls, paper rolls, aliens, kgb

And the only way to confirm how it was actually built (and remodeled, maintained) is to wait for the investigations findings.
They will show where the flaws were and what likely led to the collapse, and those facts will be hard for some people here to swallow.

Thankfully that’s where ambiguity of the law helps instead of condemns. There’s going to be some proverbial swallowing without a doubt; that’s reserved for those who have skin in this game and not some perverse sleuthing fascination.

 

[SFCharlie]

PLEASE STOP POSTING IN THIS PART 10 PLEASE
Please allow me to move the discussion to Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 11, Thank-you.
Someone Please close this post to new postings, or message me how to do this, Thanks.


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[MaudSTL]

There is detail in this that I haven't seen before, but it paraphrased... ...originally from the Washington Post.

That’s verbatim the WaPo piece from several days after the collapse. Nothing new. It is the one piece that states that Sarah Nor decided to go to the lobby at 1:14.