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Pedestrian bridge collapse over six-lane highway - I295 Northeast DC 6
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There is a known infrequent failure mode for tilting bed trucks that cause the bed to tilt up without the operators knowledge. It is not difficult to find examples. The force reaction for a hinge behind the rear axle will always make the front end lift. How far can be calculated from your statics and dynamics textbook.
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Bridges should not be the sacrificial element in a truck - bridge collision.
Regardless of which type of truck it was (is?) that is a really hard impact.
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Bridges should not be the sacrificial element in a truck - bridge collision.
Regardless of which type of truck it was (is?) that is a really hard impact.
From the pictures and the video, it doesn't look like a dump truck; it looks similar to a POD mover truck, which has four columns that can be raised up about 5 ft higher than the top of the POD. The picture posted by Spartan5 shows at least two similar columns.
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Those posts appear to be part of the bridge. A pod-mover is highly specialized and it is extremely unlikely that a scrap dealer will have any use for one.
Roll-offs are common as are straight dumps and semi dumps.
Bill
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Roll-offs are common as are straight dumps and semi dumps.
Bill
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It's the LAW!
It's odd, because there's nothing that looks like a dump bed, which should be behind the remnants of the walkway, and the columns don't look like they belong to the walkway
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Those are sign supports similar to the ones on the other side of the highway.
I have been looking in vain for a picture of the part that actually hit the bridge.
If it was rails for a drop bin, they may have been peeled all the way back and be on the ground under the debris.
Bill
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It's the LAW!
I have been looking in vain for a picture of the part that actually hit the bridge.
If it was rails for a drop bin, they may have been peeled all the way back and be on the ground under the debris.
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Yeah, that kind of makes sense
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LionelHutz
Electrical
I expect the truck had the empty roll-on frame raised.
You can see the back of the frame with the big roller in the second post in this thread and there is no box behind it so it doesn't appear the truck had a box on it.
You can see the back of the frame with the big roller in the second post in this thread and there is no box behind it so it doesn't appear the truck had a box on it.
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LittleInch
Petroleum
Apparently Frank was driving....
Accident report here says ge forgot to lower the sub frame
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Accident report here says ge forgot to lower the sub frame
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Judging from this picture, you are exactly correct, Lionel.
He probably dropped the bin and pushed the control to lower the rails(sub frame).
For some reason the rails didn't lower all the way, and he never looked back.
By the way, the truck has at least four rear view mirrors, maybe five.
Bill
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Ohm's law
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It's the LAW!
He probably dropped the bin and pushed the control to lower the rails(sub frame).
For some reason the rails didn't lower all the way, and he never looked back.
By the way, the truck has at least four rear view mirrors, maybe five.
Bill
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It's the LAW!
Frank must have gotten the subframe at exactly the right angle to maximize damage and momentum transfer to the walkway. Most videos I've seen of such collisions resulted in subframe just sliding up the obstacle.
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NorthCivil
Civil/Environmental
Just glad to hear Frank is doing OK.
overpasses and trucks, enemies until the end of time.
Seen a few of these happen in my area, though always with car bridge type overpasses. The bridge usually survives with some light damage.
Now that i type this, i do notice that the pedestrian overpasses in my area are always built much higher than the car bridge type overpasses.
overpasses and trucks, enemies until the end of time.
Seen a few of these happen in my area, though always with car bridge type overpasses. The bridge usually survives with some light damage.
Now that i type this, i do notice that the pedestrian overpasses in my area are always built much higher than the car bridge type overpasses.
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Hi IR; Most dump trucks have a single acting hydraulic lift system and may easily ride up.
The roll off trucks have a double acting hydraulic system and something fairly bog, has to break before they ride up.
In this case I think Frank hit both effects.
By the way the truck reared up, he may have had the angle just right.
The angle notwithstanding, it looks as if something big broke and the subframe then peeled back.
Bill
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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!
The roll off trucks have a double acting hydraulic system and something fairly bog, has to break before they ride up.
In this case I think Frank hit both effects.
By the way the truck reared up, he may have had the angle just right.
The angle notwithstanding, it looks as if something big broke and the subframe then peeled back.
Bill
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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!
This happened about a block from where I work a few years ago. It's apparently more common that I would have believed.
Brad Waybright
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Another high load, low bridge situation, a little bit harder to explain.
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Which part, getting on a bicycle path, or getting stuck ;-)
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And another truck vs. overpass.
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