Position of tolerance in association with the dimension

[Nick66]

Hi,

I'm working with Nx8.5. While in Drafting I go to: Preferences/Annotation, I select tolerance and then chose "Upper Right" from the drop-down of "Alignment Position". Now I create a dimension with a +/- tolerance and the tolerance is still defaulting to being directly to the right of the dimension instead of to the upper right of the dimension where I need it to be. I have also tried the same method after creating the dimension, left clicking on the dimension and bringing up the Edit function. Is there something that I am missing that I need to do?

Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[Nick66]

Cowski, going back a couple of steps... I never selected the dimension itself to edit appended text and then clicked on the dimension again to replace the dimension with a desired manual value. My Dimension is still live with the model, the tolerance is just an "appended text" rather than a "tolerance" so in this case we would have no ability to control the appended text tolerance with an expression. That is what I thought you were getting at with your warning, and I was a bit confused with the last few replies about spacing until I realized the method everyone was talking about wasn't exactly what I did.

Can we adjust the spacing between a dimension and its' appended text? Also, Cowski, how does one use the origin tool?

 

[cowski]

If you follow MickyV007's original instructions exactly, you will end up with a dimension with manual text. The dimension value itself (not the tolerance) will not update if/when your model changes. If you model a block 5 units long, and place such a dimension in the drafting view, the dimension will always read "5" (no matter the actual length of the block) until you change the value manually or convert it back to automatic text.

If you use appended text and MickyV007's suggestion about the <H> tags, you might get what you want.

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[Nick66]

I did not follow MickyV007's instructions exactly. I did what you have suggested in (If you use appended text and Micky007's suggestion about the <H> tags, you might get what you want.)

I have achieved what I show in my last attachment whilst maintaining live connection between the model and the dimension (thanks everyone), so at this point I really would like to know where I can adjust default spacing between appended text and dimensions.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Let me warn you about going the route of requesting that we enhance NX Drafting to support what you're try to do. Unless you can demonstrate that what you're looking for is supported by one of the generally used international Drafting standards, there is very little chance that we will consider this. If this is NOT part of a standard and you still want to create tolerance callouts in this manner, you will need to either create the nonstandard tolerance manually or else you'll need to use NX Open to create a custom applications to format your dimensions as you want them. If done properly you'll be able to retain your associative dimensions yet still have the tolerance callouts attached to the dimension objects.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[Nick66]

Hi John,

I'm not requesting a change in Nx here. I do however find it odd that the only options for placement of a proper tolerance are directly to the right, directly above, and directly below the dimension. As I mentioned before I've seen tolerancing done to the upper right of the dimension quite frequently regardless of what company the prints came from. Can you tell me how to adjust the default distance between a dimension and its' toloerance/appended text?

 

[JohnRBaker]

Are you saying that you've seen people creating Drawings in NX which are placing the tolerance in this manner? Or were these handdrawn drawings?

But getting back to the standards issue, unless you can show where this is supported by a standard, there will be no motivation for us to support it. We are committed to support the commonalty used international standards. If you wish to doing something nonstandard, we provide manual ways to do it as well a suite of customization tools that can be used to automate the process.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Digital Factory
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[Nick66]

I'm just saying that through my own experience at different areas of manufacturing while looking at prints from many different customers that I've seen this style of toleranceing used quite commonly. What is the suite of customization tools you mention? Is it possible that at my previous place of employment they could have customized their tolerancing to be to the upper right of the dimension?

 

[JohnRBaker]

Primarily NX Open applaictions, AKA 'user-written custom programms'.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Digital Factory
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.