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[waross]

Fischstabchen
WorldoMeter
World Deaths per Million Population.

368​

US Deaths per Million Population.

1711​

Canada Deaths per Million Population.

607​

CWB1

If I end up in a pinch I have many welcoming friends nearby who wont be so afflicted plus ready sources of power/heat/food at any public building, shelter, grocery, most gas stations, and many employers including my own.

?????
<s>Why didn't that work for the folks in Texas?</s>

Bill
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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Low standard of living in Sweden!


Even in the mankie parts of Stockholm you don't see anything like the issues you see in the UK never mind USA.

Families get to claim back huge % of tax in Sweden.

It's in your face tax not chipping away expenses so disposable income is quiet good actually. No education or health expenses to worry about.

I say this as a Brit that's spent some time there and know a little bit about the tax system. I used to be very sceptical about the scandi system but when you actually see it in practice they actually get quite good value for what they pay. More so than we do in the UK.

 

[dik]

Not rants... based on factual information. I'm not anti-American... I have a great respect for some Americans... the US and Canada, both have warts, I acknowledge ours... your's are bigger...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[dik]

and our large number is a disgrace.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[1503-44]

Thats an interesting statistic... Covid Deaths per Capita.
Thats nothing more than a bad attempt to justify a massive loss of life.
A statistic best not used for bragging. Especially when medical experts collectively believe it should have been far, far lower.

 

[hokie66]

There is no 'justification' attached to that statistic. It just illustrates the reality of the pandemic. What do you judge to be a better way of showing how the different countries have fared?

https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...n+outbreaks=false&Relative+to+Population=true

 

[dik]

That's why I used over half a million... puts it into perspective... If you look at the per capita carbon output of countries (the real measure)... you'll also get a rude awakening... With the exception of a few Middle East countries, Canada's up near the top and China is down to about #15...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Yes, China's carbon output per capita is only about half that of Canada, but do you want to exchange your standard of living for theirs? That "puts it into perspective".

As to Covid, New Zealand and Australia are fortunate in having oceans all around. Try to come to Australia, and you will see what I mean.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

I wouldn't put to much into the time line of the virus. I am in a country that basically was very lightly hit last year.

Currently we are number 1 world wide.

The game isn't over with the whole dealt with the virus the best pissing match.

 

[RedSnake]

If you can compete in happiness, well I don't know..

Happiest country

Best Regard A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

It's pretty easy to see that geographic influences play a huge role.

Along with culture.

NZ is basically end of the line with international transport. And a relatively small set of islands which are easy to isolate. Same with Iceland.

 

[dik]

AH... Iceland did the right thing... "Over the ensuing nine months, deCODE and Iceland’s Directorate of Health, the government agency that oversees health-care services, worked hand-in-hand, sharing ideas, data, laboratory space and staff. The high-powered partnership, coupled with Iceland’s diminutive size, has put the country in the enviable position of knowing practically every move the virus has made. The teams have tracked the health of every person who has tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, sequenced the genetic material of each viral isolate and screened more than half of the island’s 368,000 residents for infection." Not bad for a diminuitive country...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

If you have every been there or know any Icelanders you wouldn't be surprised.

They don't breed them stupid.

They had a webcam on the last Macdonald's meal served on the island. They turned it off after 15 years. It still looked like the day it was served.

And you think Swedish tax is bad... It ain't a patch on Iceland

 

[RedSnake]

Why is it that people who do not prepare for bad things to happen, expect that other people have prepared for them?

I think this thing with Iceland and many Northern countries is actually what cranky is asking for.
They prepare and are prepared because they need to, to survive.
The difference is just that it isn't a single person who does it, it's a community of people, which also includes the government and state.
No government and state without people..

BR A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

How "well" one country is doing compared to another. Right. UAE has the highest number of astronauts PER CAPITA and the highest number of nuclear reactors PER CAPITA, so I guess that makes them the greatest nuclear technologists and explorers of outer space. Yes, very impressive statistics.

You want to see how each country is doing, then stack the bodies in a pile in their capital city.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Not part of the argument. Just a resource to see how things are going locally or somewhere that your going to have to go.

I use this data source.

https://covid19-country-overviews.ecdc.europa.eu/#weekly_surveillance_summary

If the graph is heading up you have issues.

Using Estonia as an example where I live. Everything was fine until November. Now its just gone crazy. Iceland is increasing again. As soon as this Kent variant gets into the population all bets are off.

 

[1503-44]

I guess my point about statistics is you have to compare values that are in some way quantify what you want to discover. For example, I guess you want to compare how "well" one country is doing in relation to another. Income "Per capita" will tell you how much money the average person has, but that's all it will tell you. It won't tell you how well they are doing, because countries that have high stats there, also have high suicides ... per capita.

To compare C19 effectiveness, you have to chose some variable that is a measure of efficiency of the medical system in that regard. A country's annual medical expenditures might do that. A low
$ to C19 death count, could point to its effectiveness, whereas a high ratio would indicate poor efficiency. Deaths per capita could be telling you that the population lives in relative isolation where the opportunity for a virus to spread would be extremely limited. In that regard the population of a country acts just like any ole random number and is essentially meaningless in describing how well anything is actually going. At best it might tell me if I should avoid going to a particular country, because a high deaths per capita stat certainly describes some kind of danger level.

Thats a good resource ... but keep in mind that testing rate is not standard, so some data may be skewed. Those that do not test have a very low and artificial incidence of cases.

 

[hokie66]

1503-44,

To quote Spock about your analogy, "I find that Highly Illogical". But anyway, the statistics are not about countries doing "well", but rather how poorly they are doing.

 

[1503-44]

Take the reciprocal of the number and you get the doing poorly perspective.

I gave you a star because I prefer to think that's a 3' L typo.

 

[cranky108]

I rather think it is "all about me". Not myself personally, but how people see the world.
The attitude that the world owes me, is part of the problem. If you believe you can not make a mistake, you don't need to plan for bad things, and if they happen, it is the fault of someone else.

People need to question more, and think about the answers. What if my car were to break down? What if I had no electric? What if the kids had no school for a day?
But people are more interested in with gas heating I would not have wood ash to clean. An electric stove looks so much nicer. The "look" is the important part, because the salesman said it was.