The attack sub USS Connecticut, involved in an underwater collision in the South China Sea... 20

[dik]

Wot no window? from my dad's log book during WWII, except "Wot no Crib"... I guess they were cribbage players.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Cribbage IS the official game of bored sailors.

 

[dik]

...and I guess pilot officers, too. I almost learned cribbage before I could walk...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[IRstuff]

No windows on subs, unfortunately, mostly because it's sort of pointless below a certain depth. Only blue-green, around 515 nm, has much of a chance of getting down below around 50 m. The only way you can see below that depth would be using on-board lights, which would be sort of pointless if you're trying to hide.

TTFN (ta ta for now)
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[itsmoked]

I read where a couple of common brand depth-finders now record the depth everywhere they can against the GPS coordinates and then upload it to the cloud where it's used to update the bottom terrain continuously. The idea being the more people sailing or cruising around the more refined and accurate the charts will get. Everybody helping a little.

Keith Cress
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http://www.flaminsystems.com

 

[1503-44]

Surely there must be known max cruise depth limits in sectors frequented by subs. Its not like they run random walk routes all over the oceans.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

There is well charted areas and there is areas which date back to Thomas cook and a rope with a bit of lead on the end with a bit of tar or pig fat to collect the bottom state. And others absolutely nothing.

There is vast areas which they have absolutely no clue about because basically nobody goes there.

And the boomers do actually go for random walks for months on end within the range circle of their targets. Most of the time only 2 people onboard actually know where they are and that's the Capt and Nav. The helm may have a rough clue about the general area of operation if they can be bothered keeping track of headings and speed and keep it in their heads.

 

[thebard3]

Cribbage IS the official game of bored sailors.

It was acey-deucey and Risk in my day.

Brad Waybright

The more you know, the more you know you don't know.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

They play uckers in the royal navy

https://no.uckers-ya-uckers.co.uk/uckers-rules

 

[phamENG]

I'm clearly too young. We played Halo and Call of Duty off watch.

 

[AusG]

Crib can mean your bunk or just a place to sleep, or it can mean a pail or packed lunch.
Leaving the depth sounder on is a good thing. The Fugro folks looking for MH370 left the pinger on when they went in and out of Perth for supplies, and we got a vast wedge of good data between our coast and the official search area.

 

[waross]

There is well charted areas and there is areas which date back to Thomas cook and a rope with a bit of lead on the end with a bit of tar or pig fat to collect the bottom state. And others absolutely nothing

That's how the St Roche navigated the North West Passage. With the lead line.
The St Roche, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police patrol boat:
The second ship to traverse the North West Passage.
First ship to traverse the North West Passage from west to east.
First ship to traverse the North West Passage in a single season.
First ship to circumnavigate North America.

When the St Roche left the east coast in 1944 (First ship through in one season) they were having trouble finding crewmen. A teenaged boy signed on as a special constable. Because of his age, he had to become a legal ward of the Captain in order to join the crew.
He is listed listed on a crew list as serving from 1944 to 1949.

Cashin, William Michael Bill 1927- S/Cst 1944-49

What has this to do with anything?
Well back in 1984 my wanderlust found me in a small village about 115 miles north of Whitehorse in the Yukon Territory (Carmacks).
One lazy Sunday I found myself sitting on the bank of the Yukon river in idle conversation with one of the locals.
Bill started to reminisce about his years in the Arctic. As a teenager he had stood his watchs on the bow of the St Roche, throwing the lead line.
Throw the lead ahead of the ship.
Gather the slack.
As the line came vertical, call the mark.
Haul up the led hand over hand.
Repeat.
All day, every day.
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Over the last few years i have done a lot of internet searching and discovered that Bill had only told me a fraction of his adventures.
And, I didn't realize it at the time, but Bill never spoke about his early adventure with anyone in the village.

1948 – The crew of the RCMP “St. Roch” was presented with the Polar Medal at a ceremony at RCMP head quarters in Vancouver. The medals were in recognition of their historic voyages through the North-West Passage. Inspector Henry Larsen received the bar to the Polar medal and the Patron’s Gold Medal of the Royal Geographic Society for 1946. The three other crew members receiving the Polar Medal were; #12704 Corporal G.W. Peters (the bar to the medal), and Special Constables R.T. Johnsen and W.M. Cashin.

A memorial tribute to Bill, in recognition of his time on the St Roche

Bill's wife, Dolly Cashin, was a member of the Nordenskiold First Nations Band.
Bill is buried in the First Nations Cemetery

That brings to mind Robert Service's poem about another Mountie and the Nordenscold River.
Robert Service
Clancy of the Mounted Police.
........
Two lone men on detachment, standing for law on the trail;
Undismayed in the vastness, wise with the wisdom of old —
Out of the night hailed a half-breed telling a pitiful tale,
"White man starving and crazy on the banks of the Nordenscold.
....."

The bank of the Yukon River where we sat and chatted. (Google Maps)
Link
The Nordenscold flows into the Yukon about a mile or so to the left.


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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

I think some of you might like this book.

https://www.amazon.com/Sextant-Voyage-Guided-Mapped-Worlds/dp/0007516584

You don't seem to be able to get it on kindle in the USA unlike in UK.

I thoroughly loved reading this book. To the point I wanted to get a sextant to have a try with it.

It been reread a few times in the last 5 years.

n the tradition of Dava Sobel's ‘Longitude’ comes sailing expert David Barrie's compelling and dramatic tale of invention and discovery – an eloquent elegy to one of the most important navigational instruments ever created, and the daring mariners who used it to explore, conquer, and map the world.

This is the dramatic story of an instrument that changed history. Built around David Barrie’s own transatlantic passage using the very same navigational tools as Captain Cook, Sextant tells how one of the most vital navigational instruments was invented and used – and why the golden age of celestial navigation has now come to an end. From Cook, Bligh and Vancouver to Bougainville, La Pérouse, Flinders and FitzRoy, Barrie recounts the fortunes of the explorers who risked their lives in charting the Pacific, as well as the intrepid adventures of Slocum, Shackleton and Worsley. A heady mix of history, science and adventure, this elegy to a lost technology is infused with the wonder of discovery and the sublimity of the cosmos.

 

[waross]

Cribbage IS the official game of bored sailors.

Occasionally, the St. Roch would come across traces of the ill-fated expedition by John Franklin that disappeared with the loss of 134 men. Once, they found parts of a private boat used by Lady Franklin to search for her missing husband.
"There were pieces of good mahogany wood lying around. We made crib boards out of them," said Mr. Cashin. "I've no idea where they got to."

My Albatross, with apologies to Samuel Taylor Coleridge.

Why did Billy Cashin share his story with me of all people.

To this day, more than 55 years later, he insists: "It was just a job, eh? Even the neighbours don't know I've sailed up there."

I have no idea, but it was a privilege and honour to hear his story.
But with privilege often come responsibility of duty.
I feel a compulsion to "pay my dues" and share Bill's stories whenever I can and so keep Bill's memory alive.


"How a Ship having passed the Line was driven by storms to the cold Country towards the South Pole;"
.....
"He holds him with his glittering eye—
The Wedding-Guest stood still,
And listens like a three years' child:
The Mariner hath his will. "
.....
"That moment that his face I see,
I know the man that must hear me:
To him my tale I teach."
.....
"The Mariner, whose eye is bright,
Whose beard with age is hoar,
Is gone: and now the Wedding-Guest
Turned from the bridegroom's door."
I pray that the length of my story has not caused anyone such an inconvenience.
Thank you for reading this far.


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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!

 

[JohnRBaker]

As for the book 'Longitude' I can highly recommend it, if for no other reason than to discover how it was that pendulum clocks can be made to keep accurate time when subjected to changing temperatures and how they attempted (and failed) to create a pendulum clock that would work on ships at sea.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-'Product Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Bought John...

I was needing a new book this evening. 4 bucks on kindle.

 

[RedSnake]

waross you are a rare thing, a storyteller.
Still think you should write a book. ;-)
Half of it is done, you just need to copy paste it from here.
The wandering tales of waross

Why dose the First nations cemetery have a Swedish name?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Because you lot can sail blue water as well as shallow stagnant.

The Vikings were across that side of the pond long before it was officially discovered I reckon.

 

[RedSnake]

True
But Nordenskjöld old spelling (Nordenskiold) is a "newer" name not viking they are nobility.
Adolf Erik Nordenskiöld was the first to sail the the northeast passage, they hade a lot of explorers.
Otto was to Yukon on a expedition when he came back and held his lecture he never mentioned that he hade meet a whole lot of Swedes there that came before him.
But they are all buried here in Sweden, so I don't think it is any of them.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

Just published Oct 2021

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03972-8

Exactly 1000 yars

"Here we provide evidence that the Vikings were present in Newfoundland in AD 1021. We overcome the imprecision of previous age estimates by making use of the cosmic-ray-induced upsurge in atmospheric radiocarbon concentrations in AD 993 (ref. 6). Our new date lays down a marker for European cognisance of the Americas, and represents the first known point at which humans encircled the globe."