Using Check-Mate for out-of-date Body Measurements?

[LinuxFreak]

We're looking to begin using Check-Mate on our models, and we're trying to do so step-by-step. One check we'd like to consider is to have Check-Mate locate out-of-date Body Measurements. I've browsed the list of available tests and can't find one that will discover out-of-date Body Measurements. I've tried "Report Out-of-Date Features" and "Check Weight Data Up To Date", among others, and nothing seems to work on the body measurement.

I've attached a small image to show the specific error I'm trying to capture.



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[cowski]

The icon you see is a generic "alert" and doesn't necessarily mean the measure body is "out of date". It means that something significant has happened in the model and the current results may or may not be what you want, it isn't technically an error condition. If you right click in your part navigator you can add the "alerts" column so you can read a description of the alert (sometimes it also works to hover your mouse pointer over the icon).

Side note: the associative measure body is a feature in the part history and should update any time the model is changed. It should technically never be "out of date"; but it may throw an alert or error condition.

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[JohnRBaker]

If it was an 'error' it would be a Red/White 'X'.

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[LinuxFreak]

So it looks as if we just have to watch for the yellow exclamation mark manually then? I was hoping Check-Mate would be able to highlight it along with any other issues we choose to test for. Guess we'll just have to review the entire assembly navigator tree before releasing models.




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[cowski]

When you get the yellow icon, read the alert description. You may be able to find/write a check for that condition.

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[JohnRBaker]

Note that many times these 'yellow markers' are only a temporary notation. They provides some bit of information relative to a situation which occurred during the most recent update of the model. The software assumes that by continuing to work you've in essence accepted whatever situation was reported, therefore, when the model updates the next time the notice (the 'yellow marker') will in many cases go away. In a case like this, there's nothing really left for Check-Mate to detect. One example of a situation where this 'yellow marker' will appear is if an edit to your model caused an edge to be removed which had a blend on it. The notice will indicate that a blended edge has been removed from the model but that the blend successfully updated despite this condition. Upon the next update, the notice will be removed since for that update the deleted edge was no longer an issue as nothing had changed with respect to THAT last update, therefore there's no longer any need to continue to flag this issue.

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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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[LinuxFreak]

In our particular case, we've been using the Analysis, Measure Bodies feature to determine the mass of our assembly. We then use the mass value in an expression and report it in the titleblock. However, in the process of updating the assembly, or after doing a "Replace Component", it goes out of date since the original geometry used in the Body Measurement step has changed or been removed. Unfortunately, drawings occasionally get released in this condition, so the mass reported on the print is incorrect. Typically the Body Measurement is the last item in our model history so usually it stands out. However, we have occasionally also placed Body Measurements further up the model history and there they can get missed if the person releasing the model is in a hurry or not paying attention. Just wanted to be sure and flag it somehow during our use of Check-Mate in order to notify the checker that this feature needs to be updated.

I've tried using the Check-Mate test labelled, "Check Weight Data Up To Date", but it always reports an error, regardless of the Body Measurement status. I believe it's because we don't have the "NX Advanced Assemblies" license which allows for Weight Management data to be cached in the part file. So this test is not appropriate for catching the Body Measurement status.

<Results>

Passed -- The weight management data cached in the part file is up-to-date.
Failed -- There is no weight management data cached in the part file, or the cached data is out-of-date.​

</Results>​

Thanks for all your feedback. I think we'll just have to add it to a manual checklist of things to watch out for before releasing our models.


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