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[Reverse_Bias]

This is one of the few instances of a city with lots of fancy high rise buildings taking a direct hit from a catagory 5 hurricane. Almost every inhabitable structure in and around Acapulco looks gutted. No doubt this is going to take years to get it back to its pre storm status.

Hurricane Otis was predicted to be a tropical storm at landfall the day before, so it also represents a modern weather forecasting being pushed beyond its limits.

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[IRstuff]

It's unclear, given that Acapulco is a relatively old resort, how many buildings were actually built to modern codes.

Additionally, it's never been clear how compliant Mexican buildings are to their design plans, even if compliant.

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[dik]

In the past recent history, it hasn't been subjected to storms such as Otis... I wonder how many 'thousand year' storms it will be subject to in the near future. It's just a feature of warming oceans and climate change.

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[TugboatEng]

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist. Can you please explain what "past recent history" means?

 

[dik]

I don't know how old the structures are, but those standing have survived for possibly a few hundred years, and if it weren't for climate change, may have survived another few hundred... In spite of code provisions (or lack thereof), they have survived because they were adequately constructed for the weather they were exposed to in past.

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[davefitz]

"...when logic, and proportion, have fallen, sloppy dead..." Grace Slick

 

[dik]

Not if appropriate... Sorry guy...

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[cranky108]

Hey, look at the bright side, the hotel rates will be a lot more reasonable for a while. And there will be jobs there.
Likely not so nice for the people who actually do live there.

Actually any place set up for in season visitors is not so nice off season.

 

[TugboatEng]

Food for thought: Acapulco means "where the reeds were washed away". Perhaps they have a history?

Acapulco rose to prominence in the 1960's. I doubt there were many "few hundreds" of years old structures standing, especially considering that they had a devastating hurricane in 1971 and experienced severe flooding in 2013.

Acapulco does have the highest murder rate in Mexico. Maybe this will be their chance for a fresh start. Apparently they don't get many foreign tourists anymore.

 

[azcats]

Kudos to whoever designed this McDonald's sign.

 

[LionelHutz]

Not if appropriate... Sorry guy...

You have no clue how old the structures are that got damaged or how well they were constructed or what historic weather has happened there, yet you're making stupid claims that the structures were 100's of years old and would have survived 100's of more years if it wasn't for climate change. You're posts are nothing but complete made up BS to rant on about climate change.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Does Florida have to be 2 ft underwater before there is any change in in policy on climate change?

Personally first hand experience working with the weather every single day of my working life, it has changed significantly over the last 20 years.

Runways which we used 99% of the time landing at an airfield are now down to 50% and the winters are way more mild which is a problem for us with wet snow.

 

[TugboatEng]

Does Florida currently build in water that is 2 feet deep? There is no need to change policy on climate change. They will simply continue with the policy of not building in water that's 2 feet deep.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

the water is rising like it or not, and geologically Florida land mass is not rising like the glacially unloaded land aka Scotland which has beaches 5 miles from the coast and 10's of meters above sea level.

 

[Denial]

This forum is for discussion on "failures and disasters", presumably for purposes that include avoiding future failures and disasters.[ ] Prudence (remember her?) requires considering climate change in design even though there is some doubt about the likely magnitude of that change.[ ] So keep it cool, chaps.[ ] Pun intended.

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[Alistair_Heaton]

well said Sir...

And also shit is going to happen again and again due to it, like it or not and completely none compliant with political persuasion or beliefs or short term gains to voter turn out or leanings. As engineers we have to deal with reality not politics.

 

[Ingenuity]

This forum is for discussion on "failures and disasters", presumably for purposes that include avoiding future failures and disasters. Prudence (remember her?) requires considering climate change in design even though there is some doubt about the likely magnitude of that change. So keep it cool, chaps. Pun intended.

You are in DENIAL

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

that made me laugh thanks Ingenuity

 

[TugboatEng]

What is the life expectancy of a typical Florida coastal building? 50 years? Do we really expect Florida to be under 2 feet of water in 50 years? When the levels rise, the buildings will be at end of life. No need for a policy change due to climate change, just rebuild higher when the time comes.

 

[3DDave]

McDonalds is run on consistency - there is likely to be a sign installation section in their franchise manual and failing to meet the terms of that, which likely also includes inspection requirements (because they will have encountered short cut takers) means the franchise won't open until the deficiency is corrected.