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Any constructive criticism of my updated design approach? 4

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RodRico

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Apr 25, 2016
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All,

I'm now patent pending on my design updates incorporated since filing the original patent, so I can show it now and solicit critique (for those familiar with the system engineering process, the first patent reflected Preliminary Design while the new continuation patent reflects down select of mechanization options to a final design). There are still a number of details to complete, but I estimate final design is about 90% complete at this point.

Folks may recall my engine is a rotating cylinder radial that uses opposed pistons mated to a dedicated charge pump for scavenge/charge and employs a two-stroke Homogeneous Charge Compression Ignition (HCCI) cycle. All pistons are driven by cams, and each set of cylinders completes four full cycles per revolution. With six cylinder sets, the result is 24 complete cycles per revolution. One key difference between the current design and the original is the relocation of the charge pump from its radial position coaxial with the opposed pistons to a new position beside the opposed pistons. This change allows use of a third cam to drive the charge pump piston which previously moved in unison with the outside piston of the opposed pair. This new position shortens the transfer passage between the charge piston and the opposed pair, allows greater flexibility in charge pump timing versus the opposed pair, eliminates the cam shaft (and associated flexure) of the prior design, and maximizes the cam contact area of the heavily loaded pistons of the opposed pair. Combined with a new intake/exhaust port layout, the new approach significantly reduces back pressure (and thus pumping loss) during scavenge/charge. Another key change in the new design is reduction of the innermost piston's stroke to encompass opening and closing the intake port alone while allocating the full compression/expansion stroke to the outer piston of the pair. This change is a simple matter of mechanics; the radius of the inside cam is much smaller than the radius of the outside cam, and the larger radius cams can move further in a given number of degrees and a given material stress limit. The final major difference in the new design is the incorporation of a traditional valve/port controlled version of the Atkinson cycle to mechanize variable compression ratio and control autoignition timing; the inner cam controlling intake port timing is rotated relative to the outer cams so the port remains open during some portion of the compression stroke (note the charge pump cam profile is the inverse of the main piston's cam profile during this period so the net pressure of the Atkinson transfer is near zero). This facility is controlled according to knock sensors in the inner cam as well as atmospheric pressure and temperature sensors to vary compression and ensure ignition occurs at the ideal time in the cycle.

Below is a Solidworks Motion Study animation of one cylinder set (of 6) comprised of an opposed piston pair and a charge pump piston. Note that the animation rotates the cams rather than the pistons and cylinders as in the final design so that the cycle can be better observed. The animation shows the charge pump ports are aligned with the intake ports which are open and closed by the upper (or innermost) piston. Note the circular pocket near the intake ports in the main cylinder; this is where the fuel injectors are installed. Driven by a cam in the side housing, these fuel injectors start injecting at a fixed point in the cycle representing the latest possible closure of the intake port.

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Per my math and CAD models, the prototype engine will displace between 25 and 31 cc depending on altitude and ambient conditions (25cc on a standard day at sea level). The engine will be 6 inches in diameter and 5 inches thick and employ a bore of just over 1 inch with stroke sweeping a total of 0.481 inches (including the 0.062 inch tall ports at the top and bottom of the cylinder). It will produce 5.7 HP @ 2,626 RPM (propeller speed) and 11.5 lb-ft of torque with 58.6% efficiency including friction and pumping loss (68.3% theoretical) at sea level. 73% of said performance will be available at 15,000 foot altitude (even though air density is only 62.9% of that at sea level). The weight is high at 16.5 lb, but I expect that to come down to around 10-12 lb after weight reduction is complete (deferred until after all other aspects are proven). Performance figures are, of course, subject to validation in real hardware, but I'm encouraged by the 58.6% efficiency indicated by the models; as long as the end result is above 50%, I've got a real product.

Based on threads regarding the Achates engine, I imagine some will be quick to point out that opposed piston engines tend to dump oil out the cylinder ports. Now that the updated patent is filed I can say that this is one area where a rotating cylinder block is key; the passages to and from the intake and exhaust ports will be tilted slightly inward toward the motor axis such that oil exiting the ports can be collected via centrifugal force and routed back into the low pressure oil loop (which flows nearby through passages surrounding each cylinder for cooling). This of course assumes that the oil exiting the ports is in liquid form, and I'll have to conduct experiments to determine how it exits the port and how best to capture it aided by centrifugal force.

The whole point of this post is to solicit constructive criticism, so don't hold back. I only ask that it be constructive and respectful.

Rod
 
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gruntguru said:
Fundamental research or literature review? What I had in mind - specifically - was a test rig that establishes the benefit or otherwise of novel piston actuation in achieving the elusive goal of stable HCCI over a wide operating range.
Now I get it. I do plan critical experiments on a test rig and admit that I may have put them off longer than I should. The reason for delay is that I want the cams, pistons, and cooling system to be very close to the final configuration (perhaps that's the difference between "fundamental research" and my "critical experiments"). A common error leading to failed R&D projects (failed meaning they went on longer than they should have) is subtle differences between the critical experiment configuration and the final configuration; while the team thought they had captured every relevant aspect of the design in the experiment, it turned out there were aspects they didn't think of or aspects that changed in the final configuration and altered the expected operation.

In my case, I beleive the cams and fuel injectors are the most critical factors, but the impact of centrifugal force is important as well (it impacts the fuel spray, charge stratification, cylinder cooling, and exhaust scavenging). For that reason, the final experiments will have an opposing pair of cylinder sets in a spinning rotor and stationary cams. I'll be fleshing out the entire list of experiments and designing the associated test rigs and instrumentaton systems shortly after I complete my taxes.
 
hemi said:
Comparing engines intended for dissimilar applications usually doesn't get you very far due to all the dissimilarities. By dissimilar I also mean physical size of the target application (e.g. toy model airplane vs large scale drone).
I think I have been unclear regarding my strategy. The application of the listed engines are identical to mine: model aircraft and lawn tools. Though my math model and the parametric CAD model it drives allow me to explore larger engines, I won't tackle those engines myself. I will focus exclusively on the small 25cc engine, the most difficult both in terms of construction and performance. Assuming the small engine yields competitive advantage in my own testing, I will ship the engine on a small motoring dyno with instrumentation to third party testers, publish results, and seek a partner for the larger engines targeting RQ-7 class drones currently using the AR-741 rotary and derivatives up through light aviation currently using the [link flyrotax.com/products.html]Rotax 912/14/15 [/url] and Continental O-200 class engines.
 
It seems to me you're biting off quite a lot at once. An experienced engine developer would develop and test the novel technologies individually: the cam drive, the fuel injection & combustion recipe, and the cylinder/porting/breathing concept each in individual rig tests. Not cheap or easy, but nothing worthwhile is.

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz
 
hemi said:
It seems to me you're biting off quite a lot at once. An experienced engine developer would develop and test the novel technologies individually: the cam drive, the fuel injection & combustion recipe, and the cylinder/porting/breathing concept each in individual rig tests.
I do plan to test all those subsystems separately. As I noted in a prior reponse, "I'll be fleshing out the entire list of experiments and designing the associated test rigs and instrumentaton systems shortly after I complete my taxes." I do, however, plan on using test rigs constructed of assemblies that are as close to the final configuration as is possible.
 
I see an engine type that will last maybe 24 hours if your lucky, the high contact stresses will be problem. It will be fun to see the video of it running in a few months.
Must be forced induction to make the piston move down?
 
enginesrus said:
I see an engine type that will last maybe 24 hours if your lucky, the high contact stresses will be problem
You can tell all that without knowing any of the details? No need to know material, peak load, contact angle, surface speed, finish, hardness, etc?

enginesrus said:
Must be forced induction to make the piston move down?
As noted in several responses above, there will be springs holding pistons against cams. I have the requirements (piston mass, acceleration, centrifugal force, gas pressure), but haven't yet selected the spring type. The engine has a charge pump, but charge pressure before compression in the opposed pair is never above ambient.

enginesrus said:
It will be fun to see the video of it running in a few months
It will be years not months, and it may fail a critical experiment before I get there.
 
Unlike a normal crankshaft reciprocating engine that has a power stroke that lasts over 90 degrees of rotation, this design has about what for the power stroke angle of movement? The piston side loads are likely a deal breaker.
 
enginesrus said:
Unlike a normal crankshaft reciprocating engine that has a power stroke that lasts over 90 degrees of rotation, this design has about what for the power stroke angle of movement? The piston side loads are likely a deal breaker.
The power stroke lasts 20 degrees, the max piston force is 2,909 lbf, the max pressure angle is 38 degrees, and the max side force is thus 2293 lbf. Rather than apply side load to piston skirts, it is applied to a guide plate located as close to the cam as possible. The guide plate contact area is .182 in^2 which yields max contact pressure of 12.6 kpsi. The yield spec of Maraging 350 steel @ 500F is 310 kpsi. Where's the problem?

P.S. For completeness, the full power stroke is 0.346 inches, max RPM is 2626, mean piston speed durng expansion is 8.2 m/sec, and piston mass is 0.114 lb.
P.P.S A rapid expansion stroke reduces time available for heat transfer and ring blow-by (albeit at some cost in ring pack friction).
 

Where do the return springs go for the various pistons?
 
BigClive said:
Where do the return springs go for the various pistons?
I'm working on putting a clip-on flat spring on the inner pistons and compression springs tucked inside the cam follower of the outside piston pushing against a cup in the guide plate.
 
I assume the output speed is somewhat reduced by your cam arrangement - ie a piston undergoes multiple thermodynamic cycles in one revolution? (A conventional 2 stroke executes 1 thermodynamic cycle per revolution.) Your rpm and torque values would be more interesting if they were corrected for this.

EDIT. Just looked at your animation above and counted four lobes on your cam so 4:1 reduction?

je suis charlie
 
gruntguru said:
I assume the output speed is somewhat reduced by your cam arrangement - ie a piston undergoes multiple thermodynamic cycles in one revolution?
Yes. I calculate work (Joules) for one cycle of one cylinder every fraction of a degree via pressure * change in volume then sum it all up. From that I calculate IMEP and subtract FMEP to obtain BMEP. I then calculate HP from BMEP using a power-pulses-per-revolution (PPR) value of 24 (6 cylinders x 4 power strokes per revolution).
 
As such, most of the columns in your comparison table above are quite meaningless - especially torque/displacement and torque/mass because you are comparing engines with different "internal gearing".

BMEP (specific torque) and specific power are much more useful for comparing engines - especially ones with completely different architecture.

je suis charlie
 
gruntguru said:
As such, most of the columns in your comparison table above are quite meaningless - especially torque/displacement and torque/mass because you are comparing engines with different "internal gearing".
If you look closely, you'll see I adjusted everyone's torque to reflect use of a perfect (100% efficient, weightless) reduction gear so all engines could be reasonably compared. I suppose I could have reverse calculated BMEP from their given HP and/or torque specifications, but would that really be any better than simply granting them a perfect reduction gear?
 
That sounds reasonable. I still don't understand the torque/volume column. How is it calculated and what use is it?

je suis charlie
 
gruntguru said:
I still don't understand the torque/volume column. How is it calculated and what use is it?
It's torque per unit volume (aka "size"). Along with torque per unit weight, it informs me as to the competitiveness of my engine. Torque per unit weight is the more accurate figure because weight is easily measured and routinely reported. The torque by unit volume figure is less solid because, lacking an engine to immerse in water, it requires eyeballing and approximation from provided dimensions and drawings. That being said, it shouldn't be far enough off to explain why the T/in^3 and T/lb figures of the GF30, GF38, and G30 engines are out of whack. I suspect they may be pumping up their HP and torque numbers (model airplane engines are not routinely tested on dynos). As a very last step in the process, I may buy one each of those engines and throw them on my dyno just to get some good compartive data.
 
When calculating torque/mass and torque/vol, did you discount the torque from your motor by 75% to allow for the internal "gearing".

je suis charlie
 
gruntguru said:
When calculating torque/mass and torque/vol, did you discount the torque from your motor by 75% to allow for the internal "gearing".

I don't understand why you suggest I "discount the torque... by 75% to allow for internal gearing." The negative effect of my "internal gearing" is manifest in my FMEP calculations which average the Heywood and Ricardo estimates at 4x my RMP (2,626 x 4 = 10,504 RPM). As I have previously mentioned, this is only an estimate, but I consider it reasonable since Ricardo and Heywood both include sources of friction that are absent in my design. I plan to refine the estimate with measurements early in the critical experiment phase.

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Sorry, I just noticed you accounted for the "gearing" in the torque figures for the comparison engines.

je suis charlie
 
That's why it's best to stick with conventional measures for comparing engines, i.e. BMEP and power density. Lest you confuse us old curmudgeoneers.

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz
 
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