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Maybe they should disconnect the batteries on thousands of cars crammed in a box. Perhaps the manufactures should install simple disconnects on every car.
Or, the shipping company should pay for every lost car. Then maybe they'd enforce a functional fire-watch.
Keith Cress
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Or, the shipping company should pay for every lost car. Then maybe they'd enforce a functional fire-watch.
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I'd imagine and expect that some fire protection measure are in place given the vast sums of valuable cargo at stake. That said it wouldn't be the first time that safety is neglected at the owners peril.
It is certainly not the first time such an incident has occurred. Nor an issue than hasn't been considered.
It is certainly not the first time such an incident has occurred. Nor an issue than hasn't been considered.
I'm not surprised, given issues with batteries. There should also be a universal and international registration of vessels. The rechargeable battery charger for my snowblower has a fan cooling circuit as part of the charger to reduce the chances of over heating.
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Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?
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It should be no surprise that the ship is registered in Panama, as 17% of all merchant ships are. About 3/4 of all ships are registered under flags of convenience.
TugboatEng
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Ro/Ro ships have notoriously had issues with fires. I spent some time working on one. 1/4 tank of gas max for all vehicles on the ship. We had a CO2 fire suppression system. It was sized for one compartment and the ship consisted of 6 compartments. Fixed CO2 systems rely on a lot of things going right to be effective. I don't know if any Ro/Do ships that use systems such as Halon or it's successors for cargo hold protection due to cost.
Alistair_Heaton
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Its funny with cars full of fuel.
This side of the pond they say they are at there most dangerous when they are partial filled. When its full they don't explode. Empty they have enough vapour to go bang.
Those are all new so suspect they will only have a couple of litres in them.
Its a lot cheaper to make them, I think I read somewhere that a cruise ship on the American registry would cost 3 times as much as one built in Japan and Panama registered.
This side of the pond they say they are at there most dangerous when they are partial filled. When its full they don't explode. Empty they have enough vapour to go bang.
Those are all new so suspect they will only have a couple of litres in them.
dik said:
Its a lot cheaper to make them, I think I read somewhere that a cruise ship on the American registry would cost 3 times as much as one built in Japan and Panama registered.
Too bad Artisi. I get a shot at it. With the storm front coming in, maybe I'll be able to snag one.
If I get 2, I'll let you know.
Full tanks or not, they'll burn either way. Just a load of popcorn.
A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher.
If I get 2, I'll let you know.
Full tanks or not, they'll burn either way. Just a load of popcorn.
A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher.
Alistair_Heaton
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The German media are say it's mostly high-end cars onboard.
Plus some electric.
Tugs on there way but 2-3 days until they get there.
Plus some electric.
Tugs on there way but 2-3 days until they get there.
Alistair_Heaton
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Crew's off no major injuries. Which is the main thing
Alistair_Heaton
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This has triggered my shipping news feed again. Which is no bad thing.
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dik said:
Which means when the fan dies (and they ALWAYS DIE) you have a total disaster. A fan is not an improvement.
I think that ship should be torpedoed immediately. I believe the gross pollution would be minimized with it all a couple of thousand feet on the bottom. Then I'd fry the shipping company for the pollution caused by allowing a major fire to break out.
Keith Cress
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Theres a lot of weather out here this week. We're getting waves of fog, low cloud, wind and rain today, forecast for tomorrow and Monday. Then more for Wednesday-Thurs. Only lows of 14° here, but there'll be a lot of snow upstairs. Snow line is dropping from 2000 to 1700m, which is lower than the top of the valley at Puerto la Cruz-Orotava and only 1000m above Tenerife North Airport. Vilaflor, at 1700m is the highest town in Spain, on the south face of the peak, should get well dusted. Azores are quite farther NW, so probably much worse there.
A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher.
A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher.
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